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Old 02-20-2012, 07:58 PM   #1
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Roll Cages: What if i want to keep the rear seats?

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i was wondering if there was such thing as a roll cage that doesn't take up the entire second row of seats in a car?
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:18 PM   #2
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what car?
Cusco, but it's not certified and lots don't consider it very safe.
Autopower Makes cages for lots of cars and I think a few models allow you to keep backseats
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:31 PM   #3
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Yep... Cusco makes bolt in cages which allow you to keep your rear seats, which i wouldn't trust in a accident at all, since the bolts they come with are a JOKE. They are tiny. And most of their cages cost as much as a properly welded SCCA approved cage, lol.

If your going to get a roll cage, get a proper one.. if you have bars beside you or anywhere near your / your passengers head make sure you have a properly rigged up 5pt harnesses , last thing you want is to get in a accident wearing a stock seatbelt and split your head open on a roll bar beside your head. Happend to someone i know, just some food for thought! A good harness will keep you nice and tight in the seat

Ive had 4 cars with roll cages, 2 of which were daily drivers. In a Daily driver if you have door bars / B pillar bars it may seems cool at first, but gets super annoying quick when you have to climb into your car everyday lol, I love my rx7 but i HATE getting in/out of it. Its like climbing through monkey bars lol
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Yes it can be done. What are you doing with the car Autox, drag, circuit track or drift?
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i was thinking of entering my EG6 into trackdays, but still need the back seats mostly for going out with friends. (ps i dont want anything too expensive)
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why would you want a roll cage for track days?

The problem is that a proper cage is going to take away from your back seating area making it very dangerous to put passengers in the rear seats.

Think of a watermelon meeting a metal pipe.

In the even of an accident while on the road, your passengers heads may hit the solid bars that are part of the cage and have their heads bashed in.
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why would you want a roll cage for track days?
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What/who made you think you need one?
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i was thinking of entering my EG6 into trackdays, but still need the back seats mostly for going out with friends. (ps i dont want anything too expensive)
If the track accepts bolt in cages thats your only option then.. That way you can put it in, and take it out when you are not tracking the car.
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wow, i didnt know that it was a bad idea putting in a roll cage for track days? Or at least unnecessary. LOL man do i feel stupid? but it was one of my buddies who suggested it
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wow, i didnt know that it was a bad idea putting in a roll cage for track days? Or at least unnecessary. LOL man do i feel stupid? but it was one of my buddies who suggested it
It's not a bad idea as a proper roll cage will make your car quite safe for track days and will make your car handle better as it stiffens the chassis. However, imo it should be one of the last things to put on and only if you want a dedicated track car. If you haven't already then you should do up the suspension and brakes first.
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I just went through this, I was almost positive I could pull off leaving a small back seat, but once you have a diagonal bar and a harness bar, anyone taller than 3' is not going to get back there.

The only way it would work maybe, is in a 4 door car or a really big car.

Not to mention its not safe for passengers hitting their heads on the cage.
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Unless you're doing wheel to wheel Racing, you don't need a Roll Cage.
If you're doing Tandem drifting, you need a roll cage. If your car does less than 11's, you need a cage.
Otherwise, you won't ever need one for Track Days.

Roll Cages put your car in a different class too, so unless the car is fast enough, you're screwing yourself over.

Also, imagine this:
You're driving on the street. You get t-boned. What would've been a walk away accident now becomes one with serious injuries or death. Why? Because either your skull got bashed in by the cage, or a shitty weld broke off (That you probably paid some guy to weld it for $500), and now there's some DOM Mild steel pipe lodged in between some organs. Sweet deal bro.

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And if you're wondering just how safe a regular run of the mill cage is, check this. I believe this car ran an Autopower Cage.
Roof is flat, and the bottoms of the hoops went through the floorboard.


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Thanks for all the help guys! so yeah i dont think ill be investing in a rollcage anytime soon
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And if you're wondering just how safe a regular run of the mill cage is, check this. I believe this car ran an Autopower Cage.
Roof is flat, and the bottoms of the hoops went through the floorboard.
Now now, don't need to pass on false info. The cage on that Stang held up like it was supposed to, unlike those ricey Cusco cages and their curved A pillar front bars that go around the dash.

The problem with the Mustang was that the floor plate was too small and when the car rolled, the cage went through the floor pan. If they used a bigger floor pan plate, then that shouldn't happen.

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Thanks for all the help guys! so yeah i dont think ill be investing in a rollcage anytime soon
For simple track days, you shouldn't need a roll cage. If you are in a convertable, then a roll bar may be needed to pass tech inspection.

But there is no real way to safely have a proper cage and rear seats.
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