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GDChoi 03-02-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowside67 (Post 7816494)
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Spoiler!

K probably made myself look like a fool i guess in that price range yea, but every dealer is a bit different. Thats how it works most of the time where I work (every car differs for sure though), Im probably not allowed to release any price information but lets say its happened before.

Mr.C 03-02-2012 04:42 PM

Don't finance.

Say you have a 20k budget. Buy a 10-12k good used car. Use the rest for repairs. 10-12k will get you something way better than most 20k cars on the market.

Energy 03-02-2012 04:47 PM

Yeah, try to pay cash and not finance especially for cars in this price range.

Verdasco 03-02-2012 05:14 PM

hmm older acura tl or si..... the golf looks not bad even though it is not a sedan, any prices for these 3 cars?

extracrunchie 03-02-2012 05:52 PM

new car cheaper to finance, used cars from dealers are not............if you dont have enough funds to pay it off, dont buy used.

2010 WRX 03-02-2012 06:26 PM

Get a Subaru. For Vancouver roads that are wet 80% of the time AWD is the only way to go if you want any kind of performance. Just my opinion... but even a non turbo AWD Subaru will perform way better than a civic SI when the road is wet. Then there's snow and standing water. Even in the summer it will grip better.

46_valentinor 03-02-2012 06:36 PM

maybe save a couple more months and buy the car without your parents help? honestly, im so glad i didn't rely on my parents because i almost had to buy an altima coupe/ accord coupe because it was what they wanted....oh and it was going to be automatic as well. i just told myself to stop everything and not ask them for their help and got the car that I wanted. also, in the end i ended up saving so much more money because a new altima, accord would have costed me around 30-35k whereas the car i have right now only costed me 17k.

ask yourself what YOU want in a car, be it power, handling, cargo, seats etc etc. know what YOU want because in the end, you will be the one paying for it and every time your payment comes in the mail you are going to hate your car more and more if it wasn't the one you wanted.

AVS_Racing 03-02-2012 07:03 PM

^^^ and your gonna eventually bitch about not wanting it and either sell for a loss or try to trade for something that you want

Energy 03-02-2012 07:04 PM

^^ I got my first car with my parents help and because they paid for most of it it was a car they wanted me to have - an automatic civic sedan and the only say I had was the color lol.

extracrunchie 03-02-2012 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010 WRX (Post 7816806)
Get a Subaru. For Vancouver roads that are wet 80% of the time AWD is the only way to go if you want any kind of performance. Just my opinion... but even a non turbo AWD Subaru will perform way better than a civic SI when the road is wet. Then there's snow and standing water. Even in the summer it will grip better.

Even though subaru are 4wd, most of them come with summer tires, so traction spend a little more to get all seasons

Nightwalker 03-02-2012 07:38 PM

I bought a vehicle new in '08 and sold it in September. Losing 10k in depreciation isn't fun.

Verdasco 03-02-2012 08:00 PM

mind if i ask which car is that? ^

hmmm i am thinking of switching to coupes and sedans now. only wanted a sedan so people can access it easier in the back but now i am like :fuckthatshit: only shotgun seat is going to fold not drivers :lawl:

finbar 03-02-2012 08:03 PM

I like buying 2-3 year old cars, something coming off lease.

You avoid taking a beating on new car depreciation.



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LuHua 03-02-2012 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extracrunchie (Post 7816846)
Even though subaru are 4wd, most of them come with summer tires, so traction spend a little more to get all seasons

Last I checked, most winters and summers did better than all seasons in the wet. Tire Test: All-Season vs. Snow vs. Summer

As for the OP, with a budget like that don't go new. Got a '10 civic auto for $23k out the door, for that much I could've gotten a 07' Lexus ES350, big step up? For used you save on the first big chunk of depreciation, some might still even have warranty. Just look for a reputable dealer, tbh for used I'd probably stick with some new car dealers.

2010 WRX 03-03-2012 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 46_valentinor (Post 7816814)
maybe save a couple more months and buy the car without your parents help? honestly, im so glad i didn't rely on my parents because i almost had to buy an altima coupe/ accord coupe because it was what they wanted....oh and it was going to be automatic as well. i just told myself to stop everything and not ask them for their help and got the car that I wanted. also, in the end i ended up saving so much more money because a new altima, accord would have costed me around 30-35k whereas the car i have right now only costed me 17k.

ask yourself what YOU want in a car, be it power, handling, cargo, seats etc etc. know what YOU want because in the end, you will be the one paying for it and every time your payment comes in the mail you are going to hate your car more and more if it wasn't the one you wanted.

This makes so much sense it's not even funny. Take your time with the car buying, it can be fun and educational. And get what you want. If you think you want to do tuning and modifying look at getting an older car that has lost more of it's value. Then you have money to do some nice rims, intake, exhaust, coil-overs etc. If you show your parents that you are willing to wait they will be impressed and more likely to help. I'm not a Honda guy so I don't know... but you could take an 04-05 RSX and make it look really nice with some rims, nice SUMMER tires :hotbaby: and some good suspension. Maybe get an air splitter and wing if you think you want to go to the track.

SumAznGuy 03-03-2012 08:49 AM

OP, your posts are too vague. From what I have read, your parents want you to buy a new car in the $15K range and they are willing to give you $5000 as down payment.

Is this correct?

Who is going to pay for insurance and who is paying for gas?

You have now changed your criteria to include coupes as well as sedans. What do you plan on doing with your car? Just a DD car or do you plan on any mods? ICE or rice mods?

How old are you willing to go with the car?

Santofu 03-03-2012 09:42 AM

So you guys are saying financing an 8th generation civic si is not a good idea?

I was thinking about financing one.

Verdasco 03-03-2012 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 7817211)
OP, your posts are too vague. From what I have read, your parents want you to buy a new car in the $15K range and they are willing to give you $5000 as down payment.

Is this correct?

Who is going to pay for insurance and who is paying for gas?

You have now changed your criteria to include coupes as well as sedans. What do you plan on doing with your car? Just a DD car or do you plan on any mods? ICE or rice mods?

How old are you willing to go with the car?

yes, all is true. I am paying the rest which i can do. No mods/rice other than lights because some cars i can not see if its too dark. Hmm willing to go around 2007/08 - above.

AVS_Racing 03-03-2012 05:12 PM

not too many decent options you can find under 15k for 07+ cars. most will still be entry level cars like base civics. a 07 + tl will still be close to 20.

and to santofu, are you gona finance the whole amount of the car or what? cuz used car interest rate is at least 5%. + extra fees and tax on top if you buy from a dealer

suzuka84 03-03-2012 07:50 PM

buy the car you want at a low price on the used market rather than buying a car your parents want because they want to control and curtail your fun factor. if you want to mitigate the break down exposure do one of the high km services at your next interval ie. replace the timing belt and water bump early.

hk20000 03-03-2012 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finbar (Post 7816898)
I like buying 2-3 year old cars, something coming off lease.

You avoid taking a beating on new car depreciation.



http://www.weibull.com/hotwire/issue21/ht21_1.gif

Yes there is only a certain sweet period where your car runs sort of good and cost next to nothing in depreciation such that you forgot you own it.

It's that feeling you want bro.

Yet what I think is, if you have a 90s Japanese bubble period car, your car is so overbuilt its sweet period is now more than anything else.... like a 93 Camry Avalon SC300 Accord 626s etc somehow just last for-effing-ever. :rukidding:

Shorn 03-03-2012 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010 WRX (Post 7816806)
For Vancouver roads that are wet 80% of the time AWD is the only way to go if you want any kind of performance.

:seriously:

so you're saying any RWD sports car (M3, C63) etc doesn't have 'any kind of performance' in vancouver?

awd is nice and all. but then again it comes with the extra weight, extra powertrain loss which = less power, and more parts to break.

AVS_Racing 03-03-2012 08:26 PM

^^^ plus extra gas consumption, but it pretty fun in the rain

SumAznGuy 03-03-2012 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verdasco (Post 7817281)
yes, all is true. I am paying the rest which i can do. No mods/rice other than lights because some cars i can not see if its too dark. Hmm willing to go around 2007/08 - above.

Have you even checked around to see what type of car you can get for $15k that is 07 or newer?

Basically with your budget, you are either looking at a rebuilt or something that is very entry level.

A quick search of CL and I see a basic Mazda 3 that might be from one of those rebuild a wreck type dealer.
Dodge Nitro SXT
Mazda5
Kia Spectra
Dodge Avenger from the same dealer as the Mazda 3

2008 Honda Civic SI - White - Lowest Mileage and Lowest Price

This car might be something worth looking at that is pretty new and might be fun to drive.

Firmware 03-03-2012 09:20 PM

Side note , cars are the worst investments.

I cant stress that enough, over the last 3 years i've lost maybe like ....

10-15g on depreciation
5g annually on gas x 3
insurance 3.5g annually x3

15 + 15 + 16.5g = 46.5g LOL

Didn't even include maintenance shit

Just get ready to have your bank raped


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