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Old 04-11-2012, 06:17 AM   #26
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Don't get a RSX-S
I have one. Although I get 400-500km/50L tank, it's also on premium fuel. Insurance is a lot because it's a "sports car"
imo, you should get an impreza, or the old wrx. I'm not too sure about fuel or insurance for that, but you'll probably enjoy that more.
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:41 PM   #32
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i heard impreza's can now go 1000km/tank on highways as well. That's really appealing
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for Golf seriously consider the TDI version. VW diesel engine is one of the best on the market right now

for R53 Mini there are usually fuel pump or some sort of problem that would cost quite a bit to fix at around 100k km

Toyota Prius C looks pretty good (spec and L/KM wise) but it's 3k more than your price range
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Trust me, I wish you were right, I really do.

But Geely is no Tata/VW/BMW. I've personally dealt with Geely on supplier level while working in China. These guys do cost-cutting above everything else. When budget is cut on the assembly line, it won't matter where it is assembled. What this means to the OP is bad resale value, questionable oe parts and brand image. That's my 2cent given my experience with Geely management.

PS. Geely is the company that made the Royce knock-off a while back.

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You mean a glorified Civic?


A used Camaro or Mustang?

I wouldn't touch a newer European car, mid 90's the latest for a Benz.
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Don't get a RSX-S
I have one. Although I get 400-500km/50L tank, it's also on premium fuel. Insurance is a lot because it's a "sports car"
imo, you should get an impreza, or the old wrx. I'm not too sure about fuel or insurance for that, but you'll probably enjoy that more.
RSX don't have high insurance just cause it's a "sports car" lol...sports cars.


RSX has one of the highest death rates.
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:47 AM   #42
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^your insurance is also higher depending on how many doors it has
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+1 for the c30!

I agree with you that cost cutting affects any car no matter where it is assembled; but for a $16,000 c30, it won't be newer than 2009. Even if Geely does cost cut, this is before they bought Volvo. I would like to think that Geely has invested in Volvo, they woudln't jepordize such a big investment...even if they did buy Volvo just to gain intel on making a car that wouldn't fall apart from a minor fender bender.


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But Geely is no Tata/VW/BMW. I've personally dealt with Geely on supplier level while working in China. These guys do cost-cutting above everything else. When budget is cut on the assembly line, it won't matter where it is assembled. What this means to the OP is bad resale value, questionable oe parts and brand image. That's my 2cent given my experience with Geely management.

PS. Geely is the company that made the Royce knock-off a while back.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:38 AM   #44
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White 2012 r design for a while. You are better buying it from the states. I can't justify buying one up here since the mark up is so much more.
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I'll sell you my 242 turbo for 15k. Probably more reliable than any new piece of shit you're thinking of getting.
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I know a guy who used to work at a volvo dealership down in bellingham. He does all my services.
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I'll sell you my 242 turbo for 15k. Probably more reliable than any new piece of shit you're thinking of getting.
Not to mention a fully galvanized body.
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