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monkeywrench 06-20-2012 09:48 PM

Mind as well build a zoo there as well

UFO 06-20-2012 10:05 PM

Are we opposed to the over-spending of money (I am) or the loss of lanes on Granville/Cambie bridge (I'm not)? Those 2 bridges are very wide for what they need to do, esp with the goal of trying to decrease car traffic in the DT core. The DT north end of those bridges have limited lanes and the south end of those bridges have a ton of traffic lights, both of which bottleneck traffic flow. The bridges themselves are usually not congested 3 lanes across as a result which is why cars are often zipping along as people have noted. Burrard St was probably the best flowing bridge prior to the bike lane implementation and things now are *not bad*. Losing the lanes isn't a big deal IMO, but where the money comes to fund it is bothersome. Maybe Mayor Gregor can have his juice company buck up privately in exchange for naming rights.

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Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 7953273)
Okay, I'm genuinely curious... How do they plan to bring pedestrians into the middle of both bridges? It's not like there are any natural intersections on either end of each bridge where people can just "hop across" without any issues.

:facepalm:

As l recall there is currently a pedestrian underpass on the southside of the Granville St. bridge that allows you to cross from sb to nb side of the bridge, so really its not that hard to have the underpass lead to the middle.

gars 06-20-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by UFO (Post 7953587)
Are we opposed to the over-spending of money (I am) or the loss of lanes on Granville/Cambie bridge (I'm not)? Those 2 bridges are very wide for what they need to do, esp with the goal of trying to decrease car traffic in the DT core. The DT north end of those bridges have limited lanes and the south end of those bridges have a ton of traffic lights, both of which bottleneck traffic flow. The bridges themselves are usually not congested 3 lanes across as a result which is why cars are often zipping along as people have noted. Burrard St was probably the best flowing bridge prior to the bike lane implementation and things now are *not bad*. Losing the lanes isn't a big deal IMO, but where the money comes to fund it is bothersome. Maybe Mayor Gregor can have his juice company buck up privately in exchange for naming rights.

As l recall there is currently a pedestrian underpass on the southside of the Granville St. bridge that allows you to cross from sb to nb side of the bridge, so really its not that hard to have the underpass lead to the middle.

Yep, I agree. Most of the traffic on the bridge coming off goes onto Seymour, and most of the traffic coming on either comes from Howe, or Pacific. Granville doesn't allow cars a few blocks north of the Bridge.

I don't actually see this impacting traffic that badly.

Marco911 06-20-2012 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 7953273)
Okay, I'm genuinely curious... How do they plan to bring pedestrians into the middle of both bridges? It's not like there are any natural intersections on either end of each bridge where people can just "hop across" without any issues.

:facepalm:

By adding a Traffic light and pedestrian crossing of course!

kunoman1 06-20-2012 11:30 PM

Because obviously the current bike lanes are unbelievably successful...

spyker 06-20-2012 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeywrench (Post 7953575)
Mind as well build a zoo there as well

Greenhouse's are more his style.He can cater to all those useless hipster's that live in this city.

impulseX 06-21-2012 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PornMaster (Post 7953035)
Who voted this douchebag in.

Seriously WTF

Might as well change the new lanes on highway 1 to bike lanes

i can see it now... a big green sign...

PREPARE TO STOP.
PARKADE ON RIGHT IN 1000M.
BIKE RENTALS

WELCOME TO GREENCOUVER

Everymans 06-21-2012 02:39 PM

The granville street bridge is the worst bridge to bike or walk across. It's got such a high elevation compared to the other two and the crosswalks are sketchy as hell, if they were to simply take out a lane on one side to widen the walking path and build some barriers then I'd be in favour(like the burrard bridge). As for taking out lanes of traffic I honestly don't think it would disrupt traffic too badly. Granville street bridge never seems to have any back ups, but it's the best designed of the three because it connects to 3 streets on both sides.I'm getting rather frustrated with all these dipshit moves they're trying to make with the infrastructure in this city. The viaduct being destroyed is another stupid one, same with this new "Raised park and go fees". Way to make public transportation a more viable option! Brilliant! Let's make it more and more expensive so that it will probably be cheaper to fuckin drive to work instead of throwing cash at your shitty infrastructure. Also that bike rental idiocy. Stuff like this makes me miss Edmonton and it's "Fuck you hippies" attitude.

drunkrussian 06-21-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeywrench (Post 7953575)
Mind as well build a zoo there as well

are u being sarcastic? cause a free zoo in the middle of a bridge would be a fucking amazing thing to be honest lol

murd0c 06-21-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeywrench (Post 7953575)
Mind as well build a zoo there as well

and fill it with crackers from Hastings :ilied:

dyan 06-21-2012 04:43 PM

In my opinion.. bike lanes are getting WAY out of hand. There is now a new bike lane up agyle and marine drive.. (for those that don't know.. it's a very steep hill). Now who would like to bike up the hill?.. even so it is a very wide road so with the bike lane, it has shrunk from 2 lanes to 1.

OT: Who would want to bike across granville bridge? There hasn't been any problems with it.. and shrinking the bridge to add a bike lane would cause backups..

I hate this bike lane infrastructure changing shit.

spyker 06-21-2012 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 7954307)
and fill it with crackers from Hastings :ilied:

You mean crackheads,not crackers.

MG1 06-21-2012 04:59 PM

I don't live in Vancouver, so I can't do anything about this goof of a mayor.

murd0c 06-21-2012 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by spyker (Post 7954334)
You mean crackheads,not crackers.

same shit

SiRV 06-21-2012 07:30 PM

not sure if mentioned yet... but this concept is missing a canopy for the rain we get 50% of the time

Yodamaster 06-21-2012 07:48 PM

FIX THE FUCKING ROADS FIRST YOU SHITHEADS.

The state of our roads is on par with a third world country, for fucks sake, and then they find the nerve to build an open walkway open to our eight months of rain.

:die:

Everymans 06-21-2012 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Yodamaster (Post 7954542)
FIX THE FUCKING ROADS FIRST YOU SHITHEADS.

The state of our roads is on par with a third world country, for fucks sake, and then they find the nerve to build an open walkway open to our eight months of rain.

:die:

I agree. Tackle the issues that matter and stop wasting time on this bike infrastructure nonsense. Everytime the city does underground work they leave the road is such a horrid condition that I end up avoiding the street at all cost. Some of the streets in this city are worse then small towns in saskatchewen. Hell, even the wealthy neighborhoods out in kits have aweful roads. Some of them don't even have curbs!

gars 06-21-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Everymans (Post 7954611)
Hell, even the wealthy neighborhoods out in kits have aweful roads. Some of them don't even have curbs!

Don't blame that on the city. Same with the alleyways that aren't paved. That's totally up to the owners that live on that block. If they would like the curb paved or the alley paved, they need to pay for it.

Mr.HappySilp 06-22-2012 08:54 PM

Went to downtown today and I see no bikes using the bike lanes while the roads there is a traffic jam....... and they want to build more bike lanes..........

jack3d 06-24-2012 05:02 AM

whos really gonna walk across a bridge?

4444 06-24-2012 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by impulseX (Post 7953701)
i can see it now... a big green sign...

PREPARE TO STOP.
PARKADE ON RIGHT IN 1000M.
BIKE RENTALS

WELCOME TO GREGORCOUVER

Fixed for you (moonbeam has such an ego)

Gridlock 06-24-2012 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jack3d (Post 7957063)
whos really gonna walk across a bridge?

I never walked Granville, but I was working on a condo at the foot of the Cambie and had to go to Home Depot. Figured screw it(literally, I needed screws) I'll just walk...OMG, that bridge is deceptively long. Then to walk back...with cargo(because I bought more than screws)

No, this idea is fucked.

luibei 06-24-2012 09:31 AM

my work requires me to go in an out of downtown throughout the day and i use all bridges. Granville bridge at any given times run very smoothly. It's only when you reach the end of it where there are some lights where you may experience a minor jam (not even). Burrard (even with the bike lanes) runs smoothly as well most the time albeit with more traffic but i've seen jams both ways but during the summer time and even spring I do see many pedestrians and cyclists utilising the bridge. As for the bike lanes, during good weather i observe many cyclists using them but almost noone rides in them during the winter months. I do remember people saying noone will use the burard bike lanes and how traffic will come to a standstill on burrard bridge but the truth is far from the truth. the only thing that did come true though was that businesses downtown along hornby were indeed affected due to the lessened amount of parking space.

nns 06-24-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Everymans (Post 7954611)
I agree. Tackle the issues that matter and stop wasting time on this bike infrastructure nonsense. Everytime the city does underground work they leave the road is such a horrid condition that I end up avoiding the street at all cost. Some of the streets in this city are worse then small towns in saskatchewen. Hell, even the wealthy neighborhoods out in kits have aweful roads. Some of them don't even have curbs!

Check out Drake in downtown. The road is extremely bumpy and scarred.


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