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also extra thanks to shithead quebec for ripping the rest of the country off by continuing with their Immigrant Investor program... And tbh, work and income aside, Vancouver is a much nicer city than Seattle to live in. |
^ That's just your opinion though, I know an awful lot of people that emigrated to Seattle for jobs at Microsoft or Mack Trucks, etc... and they love it and never want to come back. Some areas of Seattle are pretty greasy, but it's not like Vancouver has areas that nobody wants to walk around in either. I spent a tonne of time down there when I had a gf living there and there are a lot of cool areas and things to do... more than Vancouver I'd say... but I wouldn't want to live there because it would have to be in the suburbs and Seattle traffic makes Vancouver traffic look charming by comparison. |
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I remember hearing a segment about people with computer and technology related backgrounds moving out of the city because the pay sucks and housing is too expensive. |
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what a dumb thing to say given that 99% of us need to work to support our lifestyles! |
Doesn't like Vancouver. Doesn't want to invest in Vancouver. Posts opinions in a Vancouver forum on a daily basis. :confused: |
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and you must not haven been to Richmond you made your point hating Vancouver pretty clear...not sure why you kept coming back to the local discussion on it tho. |
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eg. one firm with offices across north america has an office in TO and 1 in vancouver. TO's office pays according to the statistical average for x position. same position in vancouver pays iirc roughly 20% less. |
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it's just not nearly as good as the locals keep on banging on about. as for investing, you're right - wouldn't touch with a barge pole. |
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i would imagine 99% of ppl on this forum either are in school and will work, do currently work, or are looking to work. |
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1. Vancouver is mountain biking mecca. The north shore and whistler is where we all journey to every springt/summer/fall. 2. Skiing/Boarding - 3 local mountains - all world class, and once again whistler is right fucking there, which is top 10 in the world no matter how you slice or dice it. 3. Average all year round, it ain't 45 degrees in the summer and it ain't -30 in the winter. And that's perfect for me. 4. The ocean is right there, tons of lakes, and rivers. Go fishing, crabbing, boating. All without the worry of it being ridiculous packed. I mean sure Cultus might get pretty busy, but just drive to Alice lake, or lake okanagan, or cristina lake, or whatever, you've got a huge pick. 5. everything else - bitches, beaches, food, etc. Sure some nights I might get bored and think what the fuck theres nothing to do in this town, but that's complete non-sense, there is always something going on. It's a metropolis with millions of people who live here, if you can't find some way to entertain yourself thats a problem with you, not vancouver. |
I bet many places are fun to live when you take money out of the equation. |
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Is construction not a job sector? Are all the associated fields related to construction not? Yea, construction is basically a prosperity fueled field but to ignore the construction work force while bitching about how some goof can't get a job doing web design seems to completely miss the mark. Guaranteed construction in Vancouver employes wayyyy more people than Boeing, Microsoft, their tech sectors etc does in the Seattle area. Not to mention all the jobs related to infascturue etc. Go elsewhere in Canada and the states, there isn't half the infrastructure work there is here. Those are all good jobs, good careers. And these sectors envelope MASSIVE groups of companies and industries. Plop 5000 high tech jobs into Vancouver, people are still gonna spend all day crying, that's what they do. 4444 still going on about "better places to live" when in the UK brexit thread Asian friends/family members of RS members in the UK having bricks thrown through their windows. The "better places to be" are drying up in a hurry imo. |
Weekly new home sales surge 21% | Shanghai Daily Don't think the market will cool in light of this news.. |
construction is for sure creating lots of jobs. my worry is when a big lull comes similar to post olympics. |
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The rest of their tech sector may just get them to/over the 200,000 mark. And WA has 7.1M people vs BC's 4.7M. |
people complaining about no industry and wages...when did Vancouver have one anyways? Yet prices keep soaring while inventory and land is scarce. Accept that fact that Vancouver is a world class beautiful city that will keep attracting the rich.. The poor locals must commute 2 hours to work like every other major metropolitan city. |
I don't see a 'beautiful' city but I certainly see a livable city. The city only attracts the rich because of how easy it's become to funnel money from one country to another and use property as a safe vault to secure the money. Fuck, this shit's been talked about for years. IF (not when) rules ever clamp down hard enough on all the shady tactics, then expect the rich launderers to pack up their money, sell the properties off at a minimal loss and move to another 'world class' city to continuing hiding their wealth from their mother countries. You think they give a shit about the actual city? Hah, I'd wager their looking for safe spaces where they can't be disturbed. A city where they can strut around, be the envy of everyone and never feel afraid of the big bad CRA coming after them. It's greed that's driving up prices, it's greed that's allowing the rich to have such a stronghold on the market and it's greed that non-rich people leverage out their asses in mortgage payments and risk poverty every day. |
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At least not for the assembler grunts that laid off by the 1000's when an order is complete. No one remembers in the late 1999 & 2000 they cut 48,000 jobs. |
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Difference companies, different experiences. I'm in tech. 10 years this year as well. I work in a 40 billion dollar multi-national. Our branches here in the lower mainland have gone through around 10 restructures since I got hired. From our last restructure 2 years ago, I saw a couple of our former developers switching to real estate as agents. I'm surprised I'm still here. I guess, if you have cheap labour, you keep them lolol. I've been stuck in the 100k range forever. Is that good ? well, I have gratitude for what I have. BUT, from our company, my american counterparts get paid much more (even if USD=CAD). Keep in mind, there are tons of talent in the lower mainland for tech. We have remnants of the Tech bubble burst from 15 years ago who never got back to tech. |
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I remember some new grads we hired a few years back, they were getting paid 35k contract (meaning no benefits). I was like wtf, they're getting paid almost as bad as new grad accountants. This was around 2010. Currently, we laid off our QA department and replaced them with newly hires straight from India (which were brought to our office here). I'm happy for them that they got out of India and to a better place. But makes you wonder, who's next ? Now, make yourself poorer, lose your job, then all of a sudden, your "national pride" has increased tenfold. |
I'm in tech for about 4.5 years (designer). Current company i'm with is extremely competitive in terms of salary. Benefits are good and are in the process of looking into RRSP matching. That being said we have a HQ in Germany as well and is rapidly expanding (our office expansion just completed). But, during my life-time of job hunting, the pays are shit. New grad? Expect $15/hr if lucky. People are cheap here for designers. |
lol, sounds like SAP. |
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