Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 8085657)

Originally Posted by drunkrussian (Post 8087550)

if there's one thing jews are good at, it's business :fullofwin: and war is not good for business - it is a waste of money. Isarel has a booming economy in manufacturing and tech among other things, and putting people out of work to go fight is not good for business. Firing $10,000 missles is not good for business. Israel goes to war to defend, not to achieve some goal which your western media apparently denies. It is not israel vs. palestine, it is israel vs. whatever terrorist state is currently on board to go fight them.

don't get me wrong; i think both parties are retarded and wish they would stop this. Most people do. It is people like you who form conspiracy theories and take an extreme side who are the dimwits.

Originally Posted by RouRK (Post 8085678)

Originally Posted by belka (Post 8087619)

Originally Posted by drunkrussian (Post 8087550)

alright fuck it

today a bus full of 20 israelis blew up and that was covered.
Is this suppose to counter my argument? More media sorrow for the poor isreali's.

In addition all i'm seeing is coverage of people in gaza getting blown apart. I'd say the biased western media is showing us what they can get footage of. Go to CNN right now and tell me what you see.
Great you have some clips you want to show off, find me one that is truly sympathetic to Palestinian children being terrorized.

it costs israel 10,000 dollars to fire a single missle which is meant to counter a hamas missle and stop it from landing on israeli soil. It is filled with technology to be accurate and get the job done. If a hamas missle is headed towards outskirts of israel with no people, an israeli missle is not fired, to save money.
This is American tax payers money and yes I know how the Iron Dome works.


so i ask you, why the FUCK would they waste these missles and taxpayher dollars to kill little children and women?
Because they want to terrorize the population to give up resistance, thats why the fuck.
Because that's such a good PR stint?
320 children were killed last time and if it wasnt for the Iranian sponsored PressTV news, the world would'nt know much better. The west couldnt give two fucks and Harper stands by this shit... who needs PR in the western world when simple robots that cant think for themselves watch TV and suck in all that their president feeds them.

Because they enjoy killing women and children? Bingo, you only have to really know the genocidal isreali past which I bet you have no idea about because your education and media have kept you ignorant.
Because they want to piss off hamas? Give me a break man, a missle is not fired unless it is to protect.
"a missle is not fired unless it is to protect" what is that suppose to mean? These strikes are all video recorded, show me how taking out a whole apartment is protective... over 1500 strikes on Gaza was to decimate the whole city along with its citizens and infrastructure.



you are comparing a poor, run down society who's conflicts are started by terrorists,
Thats a stupid statement for a nation that's been made refugees on their own land. A run down society, ha, I bet your pretty passionate about Vancouver traffic too... can you imagine going to work everyday like this?
People kept in cages before going to work = DEHUMANISATION - YouTube


to the most sophisticated army in the world, engineered to protect and with years of experience. They only have nukes, and they lost the 33 day war... even a Gaza ground invasion was too much for them... they truly did open the gates of hell when they stared this war and folded at the end with giving Palestinians access to move in and out of their town now with the new truce.

No shit 10 israelis died. Go look up numbers for the u.s vs. iraq war. Next take the american causalties and see how many of those deaths were due to friendly fire and other stupid shit.
Every citizen of Isreal is like a soldier, so when Hamas gets accurate missile technology, they can also up the numbers by destroying the Iron dome and leveling apartments to murder as isreal indiscriminately kills people... your proud of this it seems... killing innocent women and children.
Its all isreal knows and you've been brain washed to accept this as justified it seems and as a win.


In addition, do these statistics account for things like bus explosions, nightclub bombings and other stupid shit? If you lived in israel, hyou would know that bus explosions are THE go-to move for quick terrorist acts.
Terror for terror if the Palestinians have to stoop as low as the vile Zionist to survive. What kind of logic thinks a guy with a uniform who drops a 1 ton bomb from the air to be not a terrorist. I believe Saddam was funding some of the past bombing, giving a suicide bombers family money to do such acts. This latest bus attack wasnt meant to do major carnage as supposedly only one person has died.


But i guess the israeli-serving western media should've told you that already? But wait, innocent israeli women and children take the bus. Could your terrorists be murderers as well? :-o biased western media, where art thou?!

Isreali citizens need to collectively stop supporting this middle eastern military base and go back to their Europeans and Russian homes. I wonder what percentage of Isreali's are actually ethnically Jewish (from ancient Georgia) and serving in the army. The people there now are soldiers for to be used by the world powers... the middle east hold a wealth of energy and the powers goal for a one world government (world dominance) will not be possible without it.


if there's one thing jews are good at, it's business :fullofwin: and war is not good for business - it is a waste of money.
American tax payer money.

Isarel has a booming economy in manufacturing and tech among other things, and putting people out of work to go fight is not good for business.
These isreali terror campaigns and the backlash isnt good in keeping isrealis in town and importing more solider for future major conflicts.

Firing $10,000 missles is not good for business.
A war in Gaza would've cost up to a billion in the figures Ive seen.
Israel goes to war to defend, not to achieve some goal which your western media apparently denies.

:failed:

It is not israel vs. palestine, it is israel vs. whatever terrorist state is currently on board to go fight them.
People around the world protest against isreal. Jews protest against isreal. Has anyone ever seen an Arab protest for isreal?

don't get me wrong; i think both parties are retarded and wish they would stop this. Most people do. It is people like you who form conspiracy theories and take an extreme side who are the dimwits.

You support a genocidal state, the slaughtered women and children are proof enough, and I know you wouldnt have same views if you were of Arab descent.

Originally Posted by ProBoostin (Post 8087731)

I'm not up to date with the whole conflict but here's a little history of what the Jews have gone through for quite some time:

Jews have been terrorized since the 1100's and everyone thinks that all this happened in the last century or two. Around 1150 in England, it was claimed that a Jew crucified a Christian child. More of these accusation came up in England and elsewhere, often combined with the assertion that Jews needed Christian blood for their sacred ceremonies. Jews were then accused of being demons and associated with the Devil.

This Trend continued until the 1800's and in 1879, Wilhelm Marr published a book, "The Victory of Jews over the Germans," which systematically presented that Jews were corrupt by nature and not because of their beliefs. Karl Eugen Duhring also published "The Jewish Question as a Problem of Racial Characteristics" in 1880, which was a fuller and more sophisticated exposition of the new racist antisemitism.

19th century German also saw that 80% of German-Jewry was class as bourgeois and were overrepresented in lucrative or prestigious fields. Germans eventually began to hate them so much that the Kristallnacht happened and late the Holocaust,and Jews fled Germany by the thousands after the Kristallnacht.

Jews want Isreal as their country because they fear that without seclusion from other countries they are in danger of emancipation. Jerusalem is the their Holy city which should be accounted for. They want to be left alone and live their own lives without fear of being killed. The whole war in Isreal is because they can't come to terms on who gets what land its its become a big shit show.

CharlesInCharge, if you go back another 5 years you'll see that millions of Jews were killed. I wouldn't blame them for wanted their on little country so they can at least say they are safe. Jews haven't really done anything to anyone to force that has been done to them. Most people dislike them because they are intelligent and know how to deal with money (first started charging interest as merchants in the Middle Ages).

At least the cease fire plan has gone through for a day so far. Thank god for RT news. Russians actually show proper news stories and no western media bullshit.

Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge

There are different sects of Judaism and when different parts of this religion teach that Jews are gods chosen people and with the whole migrating into European societies and charging interest to poor people, creating social economic problems, could be why many countries across Europe collectively expelled Jewish people. One or more of Shakespear's famous plays tell of these stories.

Originally Posted by drunkrussian (Post 8087880)

lol cause shakespeare wasnt anti semetic at all...
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Originally Posted by rsx (Post 8087838)

You present a very one-sided case for Israel. What about the Palestinian side?

Originally Posted by rsx (Post 8087838)

You present a very one-sided case for Israel. What about the Palestinian side?

Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 8087867)

Shakespear did not intended his plays as historical accounts, and you follow in a tradition of anti-semites who lack a basic understanding of the texts to offer it as such.

The Merchant of Venice is not a criticism of Jewish people, it is a criticism of the persecution suffered by them.

Originally Posted by belka (Post 8088087)

Palestinians don't have a right to anything. They elected a terrorist organization who's sole purpose is the destruction of Israel, not the welfare of their own people. Palestinians/Hamas are basically the front line of the Arabs war against the Jews and Israel. If the Palestinian problem didn't exist then Iran and the rest of the Arab world would have to fight Israel directly - militarily. The last 60 years has shown that fighting the IDF directly is suicide. Arabs know they won't win a conventional war vs. Israel so they use groups like Hamas and Hezbollah to fight for them. Cowards and pussies.

Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge (Post 8088154)

These groups you mention consist of honourable men who sacrifice themselves to free their people.

Originally Posted by belka (Post 8088191)

You are correct on that one. The more "honourable men" that those groups get, the better the IDF gets at killing them. If only more "honourable men" would join and sacrifice their pathetic existence for their pointless, unattainable cause. Arabs won't win with force, but they are too stupid to realize this.

Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge (Post 8088198)

I guess your silence on the professors view show that you acknowledge that Isreali citizens are nothing but cannon fodder for the imperial Zionist.

Originally Posted by wasabisashimi (Post 8088085)

When will they stop the fighting? This is worst than Kim Jung Il, Sadam and George Bush Jr. combined! Such a waste of money and lives.

Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge (Post 8088206)

Sounds harsh but why did the powers put Isreali's in danger of Saddam who is notorious for killing thousands of people with chemical bombs.