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i hope karma is true and people are as good to you as you are indicating you would be to them - sadly, karma hasn't worked too well for me (i'm generally REALLY nice to people and will help them out, but people have pissed on this generosity one too many times in my 30 years) |
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would have been easier to hire a an architect to assist with design up front to include a BBQ than a structural engineer to look at the integrity of someone else's retaining wall :lawl: |
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In relationships with women, I agree, but that is due to societal pressures and an outdated model of dating. In legal matters, I think we still have trust. What is his motivation to get the BBQ setup? What are the OP's concerns about the BBQ? It should be easy for two grown men to sit down over a beer and discuss this. I would love to see my neighbor(If I owned a house)have an enjoy his BBQ. A neighbor you can trust can be such a resource and good friend. |
its not about pushing your fence back 2 feet for a couple feet to squeeze a bbq in. the neighbour is talking about excavating part of the 6 foot tall retaining wall holding up his driveway. being cautious about it doesn't make him an asshole. thats like the difference between me wanting to take a couple pictures of your girlfriend, and wanting to cut off one of her ass cheeks to take home so i can rub my face against it before i fall asleep every night. |
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it's just too fraught with risk and danger i agree with you - would love to be invited over for BBQ, share a beer, a story/advice, etc. but ppl in vancouver aren't like that - they're mostly weirdos who don't want to associate with you unless they can get something from you |
Engineers and the builders are highly trained, but as humans mistakes can occur. I can imagine the legal shitstorm and the falling out of relations with the neighbour if the wall/driveway collapse. Neighbour could use some BS clause like "its my land now, you didnt reinforce your wall properly after." Not worth it Rule of thumb is that anytime money/liability is involved, you will see the true side of a person. |
no. don't do it most likely your neighbor is trying to use your kindness. any engineer with some brains won't design a house that does not fit into the land they are given - most likely your neighbor told the engineer/architect to just put it in the plans |
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Selfish is asking for another person's property. Inconsiderate is asking again after they said no. It would affect his life. There are liability issues, land value issues. Let alone potential issues with it being a permanent structure and removal of it would require rebuilding the retaining wall back to where it was. AND if either party tries to sell and move, you're looking at YET another basket full of headaches. If there were none of these things, I'd happily suggest he share the land use. However, unless you have something better than "you're selfish" to counter these issues, your position of argument is rather weak. |
Thanks for all the responses everyone. I showed my parents this thread and they appreciate all the feedback. My dad said he is going to stay firm and not let him build the bbq on our property. But, there is a small grassy/gravel area further down on our property that he'll let him put a portable bbq there. I think that's the best he'll get. Again, thank you. My parents were completely thrown back by our little community here. |
Glad to see your parents are making the correct decision. Be prepared for your neighbor to push back as long as you don't cave the RS Beatdown crew won't be over to knock some sense into ya :) |
Yeah, he was completely astonished my dad said no, like he couldn't believe my dad wouldn't agree to his proposal. I'll update the thread after my dad breaks the bad news again. haha, thanks murd0c. |
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I dislike reading that so many of you think that somehow this guy's idea will end up fucking the OP over in the long run. How do people put faith in marriage(50% failure rate) over a BBQ in someone's backyard? :P |
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bro you do even live in Vancouver? |
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You're all bastards who think everyone in Vancouver would fuck everyone else over! :buttkick: I'm offended that so many of you think this way. Fuck, why do I live here? This thread has me depressed now, great! |
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That said, even if the OP did give the neighbour permission to build it, suppose they move and the new neighbours decide they want that bit of property back for their own use? Or even if the OP's family ends up finding a use for it, what happens then? |
that would just be soooo selfish of them lomac |
Idiom of the day: Good fence makes good neighbours. |
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