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Old 01-25-2013, 07:45 PM   #26
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whatever the statistics say, you can't beat the raw sound of an inline 6 at 7000 rpm -- just saying




Anyways, what do you expect. They're all aluminium engines with upper middleclass people driving them who don't know the first thing about engines -- "Oh, the temperature is too high? I better drive really fast to the dealership so the air can cool down the engine"
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:37 PM   #28
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Anyways, what do you expect. They're all aluminium engines with upper middleclass people driving them who don't know the first thing about engines -- "Oh, the temperature is too high? I better drive really fast to the dealership so the air can cool down the engine"
What is this? An aircooled Porsche 993?
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:45 PM   #30
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whatever the statistics say, you can't beat the raw sound of an inline 6 at 7000 rpm -- just saying




Anyways, what do you expect. They're all aluminium engines with upper middleclass people driving them who don't know the first thing about engines -- "Oh, the temperature is too high? I better drive really fast to the dealership so the air can cool down the engine"
this, when I worked at GM I heard a story.

someone came in because "their car randomly stopped starting" (it was towed) turns out there was no coolant in the car the thing overheated and warped the head etc. The person did not stop even though the temp gauge was pinned to hot their response was "isn't that for the outside temperature"

I wasn't working their at the time but it sounded hilarious, they argued to get warranty work done on it also...
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Hmmm and I was thinking about picking up a BMW too eh. At least I feel better about my benz lol
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owned enough bmws and benzs to say that u dont buy them for reliability.

im not even gonna bother with audi and vw
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My friends GL450's engine blew up and MB wants 20k to fix it.

For BMW's engine failures, particularly the 35i engines it's just a fuel pump, not the whole engine..

Not surprised with audi/vw, especially that 1.8T....
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You know, having had multiple Volkswagens over the past 15 or so years, I really don't think Volkswagens are that unreliable at all. They are by no means Honda or Toyota reliable -- I am not saying they are. But for the most part, I only get 1 or 2 minor issues at most in a year with the car, so I wouldn't say they are that bad at all.
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hmmm.. surprised mitsubishi is at the least reliable... their new 4B11 motors are pretty reliable so far from what ive seen.... and its used throughout their current line up
remember what happened at mission? the ACC belt went it was brand new ahahahah
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My friends GL450's engine blew up and MB wants 20k to fix it.

For BMW's engine failures, particularly the 35i engines it's just a fuel pump, not the whole engine..

Not surprised with audi/vw, especially that 1.8T....
what year is the GL?
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hyundai not listed in either.. haha I guess its good....
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You know, having had multiple Volkswagens over the past 15 or so years, I really don't think Volkswagens are that unreliable at all. They are by no means Honda or Toyota reliable -- I am not saying they are. But for the most part, I only get 1 or 2 minor issues at most in a year with the car, so I wouldn't say they are that bad at all.
1-2 issues per year?! I guess I'm just used to driving japanese.
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What do they qualify as an "engine failure"? I find it hard to believe that 1 in 27 Audis needs a new engine or 1 in 45 BMW's do. Or does having a CEL light come on that requires a new sensor or ignition coil count as a "failure"?
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Agreed.

The article is very vague and does not get into specifics. For all we know, it could be because the person who owned the vehicle didn't close the gas cap and in turn, freaks out because there's a CEL on the dash.

Catastrophic failure like a piston punching a hole through the hood - okay. I get it. But the article in itself should be taken lightly, if at all.
you guys read my mind exactly. they do not define what an "engine failure" is.
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Merc is german and its top 3 so you can't generalize about german makers. Never had a problem with the family w203-knock on wood!
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Not surprised with audi/vw, especially that 1.8T....
what's wrong with the 1.8T? the 1.8T long block assembly is a very reliable engine. everything else connected to it, is your typical VAG type of stuff (electronics, turbocharger, etc).
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1-2 issues per year?! I guess I'm just used to driving japanese.
In most years, it was 1 minor issue coming up (per year). I remember the MAF sensor dying, some O2 sensor needs replacement, a recurring turbo recirculation valve of some sort dying every 1.5 - 2.5 years, a bushing tearing up, a shift linkage issue, some coolant sensor intermittently fxxking up in sub-zero temperatures. The biggest one was a sunroof rail / clip of some sort failing. None ever left me stranded, and most were covered under warranty / extended warranty. So yes, definitely not Japanese reliable, but I'd only classify them as annoyances instead of crippling breakdowns.
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Maybe it has to do the additive of ethanol in the fuel. I heard the diminishes the plastic lining in the engines and can cause them to not last as long. Anyone school me on that?
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From what I understand, older BMW's have unreliable cooling systems, and the 35i's have the problem with the HP fuel pump. I heard the engines themselves are quite reliable.
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In most years, it was 1 minor issue coming up (per year). I remember the MAF sensor dying, some O2 sensor needs replacement, a recurring turbo recirculation valve of some sort dying every 1.5 - 2.5 years, a bushing tearing up, a shift linkage issue, some coolant sensor intermittently fxxking up in sub-zero temperatures. The biggest one was a sunroof rail / clip of some sort failing. None ever left me stranded, and most were covered under warranty / extended warranty. So yes, definitely not Japanese reliable, but I'd only classify them as annoyances instead of crippling breakdowns.
I guess I like driving more than fixing cars...I lust after E30 M3s and 80s 911 Porsches, but I can only afford one car and I would be scared to daily drive those with all the potential problems.
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remember what happened at mission? the ACC belt went it was brand new ahahahah
lolol i rmbr getting a text from 124Y....
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From what I understand, older BMW's have unreliable cooling systems, and the 35i's
The cooling system is the Achilles heel for all BMWs.
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