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Old 03-08-2013, 01:37 PM   #26
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yeahhh no.
a phone is vital for emergencies.
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I could see lots of scenarios (as extreme as some may be) where lawsuits will come into play if phones are seized. Everything from business people claiming all the business they lost due to customers/clients unable to contact to schools calling emergency contact and no response. Just a few examples off the top of my head.
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When pulled over throw it in your gloves box and lock it.

Remember cops can't search your vehicle
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yeah if they take my phone im taking my sim card, sd card and battery out. But first they'd have to pry it from my hands.
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Whats next? Taking away a persons wheel chair because he illegally crossed the street?
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When pulled over throw it in your gloves box and lock it.

Remember cops can't search your vehicle
and what makes you think they cant?
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and what makes you think they cant?

without consent police need warrants if they do not have probable cause
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Man, the Liberals sure used their 3rd term in power to declare war against motorists.

How about you assholes get at fixing the stuff that's REALLY wrong in the province mmmmkay?

I. Can't. Fucking. Wait. Until May.
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Fine for me. But i guess they might need to think about those that use their cell phones to conduct business...It would suck for someone to lose out on a 25K deal just because their cell was seized.
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lucky I carry two phones eh lol. But I don't see myself getting my phone seized anytime soon, texting/talking while driving is a no no=P
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I can't belive the amount of people here that think its' OK for the govnt. to TAKE your phone away for 24hours? Without sounding like a broken record and a bit cliche, this is not Germany in the 40's. We live in a free country. Sure it's against the law to use a phone while driving. So maybe do a bit more enforcement and make the fine higher. Every police officer I know (and I know quite a few) say the traffic enforcement has dropped to the floor in the last few years due to under staffing and way more important things to attend to like domestics, robbery etc. I remember I used to see 5-10 cop cars a day on the roads. Now I see maybe 2 if I'm luck.

LA has had a no phone rule for a while and nearly everyone follows it there, why? Because there is actual enforcement and larger fines. Heck, I remember having a cop car pull next to me one day and the car infront of him was on his phone and he didn't even notice (or didn't care because he had more important things to do?)
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Wtf? A hefty fine is more than enough....
Apparently it isn't, since so many people are still doing it... and still complaining about it when they get caught.

There's a really simple solution to make sure you don't get a ticket, and potentially don't get your phone seized:

DON'T FUCKING PHONE/TEXT AND DRIVE.

Problem solved.
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Man, the Liberals sure used their 3rd term in power to declare war against motorists.
I must have missed where this initiative had anything to do with the Liberals. It's a motion put forward by the Union of Police Chiefs.

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Fine for me. But i guess they might need to think about those that use their cell phones to conduct business...It would suck for someone to lose out on a 25K deal just because their cell was seized.
It's pretty easy to avoid that possibility:

DON'T FUCKING PHONE/TEXT WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING.

Pretty simple solution, no?
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yeahhh no.
a phone is vital for emergencies.
Yeah, that's why everyone in the fucking world made do without them for thousands of years When's the last time you actually dialled 911 on your cell phone?
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I must have missed where this initiative had anything to do with the Liberals. It's a motion put forward by the Union of Police Chiefs.
I must have missed where I was speaking about this initiative specifically?

My point was valid, the Liberals introduced the original electronic devices law, mandatory impoundments, civil forfeitures and fucking gasoline "carbon" taxes. All in this third term in power.


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Here's an idea: Don't talk on your cell while you're driving and you won't have to worry about it being seized

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They can't even prove the effectiveness of existing distracted driving laws and they already want to introduce more invasive laws.
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I don't need any proof. Almost every time I'm stuck behind someone failing to make a turn, or who can't get out of a parking space, or nearly hits me, they're on a damn cellphone.

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Fine for me. But i guess they might need to think about those that use their cell phones to conduct business...It would suck for someone to lose out on a 25K deal just because their cell was seized.
It would suck for someone to lose a child or a parent because someone was too concerned about some stupid business deal to concentrate on driving.
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Last edited by Gridlock; 03-08-2013 at 08:35 PM. Reason: deposited for the end part. So tired of this nanny state shit. Oh, we're gonna take your cell phone. Like hell.
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This is starting to get out of hand. First with the road side impoundment and suspension that used to require a review, now cops want the ability to seize cellphones? Whats next?

There used to be a legal process for this kind of thing and alot of the powers police now have at roadside are things that probably needed a criminal code conviction in the past. the power given in the MVA seems to be far surpassing the criminal code. Cops should not be given that authority simply based on their opinion without PROOF shown in front of a judge. It is all their word against yours which is pointless anyway because by the time you have a chance to fight it, its already over. It is you, standing there at that moment, with ZERO power against another person given all of the authority.

It was one thing with the increase in fines, I can buy that, as its fairly obvious fines are being used as a massive revenue stream. But seizures don't benefit the police or the province, they simply just fuck people over.

What if a cop came to your door with no warrant and seized your computer on the spot for suspected computer piracy because his UNPROVEN opinion is that you may have downloaded something. Not because an overseeing authority gave the go ahead, simply because he felt like being a dick that day.


I have nothing against cops individually. I haven't ever had a bad experience with one, and I know a few amazing people who are cops. But the law is giving them as a whole too much power.
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Yeah, that's why everyone in the fucking world made do without them for thousands of years When's the last time you actually dialled 911 on your cell phone?
so you never ever had a serious and urgent call where your family was trying to get a hold of you? It's the 21st century where having a phone is a piece of mind.

also, a phone is just as important as having my license in case my car ever breaks down/get into accident...not to mention how handy the camera on your phone becomes to take photos of the accident.
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lol, Police seeking POWER

man, dont these cops got better SHIT to do?!
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