Big Circle still exists but they tend to operate on an individual cell basis as opposed to a unified whole. It also isn't a street gang like the other two (never heard of red eagles, los diablos and lotus yes) and they have an international presence as they developed from former Red Guards.

In 2009, Hong Chao Raymond of big circle was shot outside his Shaughnessy home in Vancouver.

http://i.imgur.com/deM6MRu.jpg

From the Bacon Bros book. Had to screenshot it because copy is disabled on Google books.

red eagles was more of an 70s/80s asian gang i think a cousin of mines ex-husband was in that gang (supposedly) when he was trying to court her (before my time and we're not close so i dunno)

look an angelfire webite! about vancouver asian gangs

asian youth gangs.html


not sure if this link works but a government document about gangs/gang members that were in prison in BC back in the 90s
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...EUdkWPWMspwBOA

if not you can download the pdf https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...44342787,d.dmQ

this is a good read about one of the early vancouver asian gangs

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

+1 for paper fan based on Steven Wong

+2

Read paper fan last year, the first half is really good. I thought it would be an ok summer read about a Triad and it talked alot about Vancouver's history. I never finished it because the second half was so boring and was basically a tour of Asian countries and their history.

The book is about the wars between the Red Eagles vs. Lotus and the Diablos. it also talks a lot about Vietnamese street gangs in the 90's. But the main story is how a Red Eagle member Steven Wong became a 14K triad member and split out of the Red Eagles to form the Gum Wah.

While this stuff is pretty interesting, it is pretty sad that what has happened to the culture in BC that it makes these guys look like heroes. It seems like in BC if your a hardcore gangster guys want to be friends with you and girls want to be with you.

Anyone remember that 2 episode TV Series
"Dragon Boys" ?

It was pretty good.

depends on the crowd... i suppose... i would think only high school kids and those who think/live as if they're still in high school would be as you described...

lol no love for WAH CHING, i heard there some of them are here in BC

man its like every other high school nammer boy in bc now CLAIM to be in some gang & say he all tough like that, whats up with that anyways

LOL Yea that CBC special. It was umm interesting :fullofwin:

Ugh, I hate when high school kids go into chest-beating mode and act like they're hard. If they faced any real danger they'd turn into blubbering babies.

There's also the boss of the Water Room Gang (macau triad) that has been living in Vancouver for the last 17yrs (attempt was also made on his life here in Vancouver years ago)

the story has been on the news lately as he and his family may get deported and questions of why he was even allowed into Canada in the first place are also being discussed

I dunno what the fascination of being in a gang is. The smart gangster should work in the background and avoid being associated with anyone

Stupidest thing you can is label yourself so the cops can have a profile of you...ie Hells Angel, UN, Red Scorpions and what ever group that takes their place.

^if gangsters were smart enough to not get gang tattoos, be affiliated etc. they would not be gangsters. they would be bankers, lawyers, doctors, marketers, accountants etc

gangsters are alpha males who are insecure and constantly need to prove themselves. the whole idea of gangs is based around the concept of a buncha cry babies who are pisse at their life and instead of getting out of their hole, get together to bully others and show everyone how big their cock is

That sounds like an opinion. Not a fact.

Nope.

my dad know some gang members in hong kong & they wear suit & tie all the time, they even have some legit businesses

not all gangsters are like what u mentioned

Most of the ones you here about are small time. Bindy Johal was small time. Red Scorpions, UN and the others you here about are small time.

you sound like you got bullied by gangsters

He's obviously describing the majority of local lower-level ones based on his own personal experiences, there will always be exceptions and many types.

id be inclined to agree with Drunkrussian.

usually a gang originates with a group of insecure/misfit people gathering together cuz they dont belong, so they make their own group for support. the larger the group, the more empowered they feel. it spirals downwards from there.

so many quiet immigrant classmates fell into this. some are dead, others in prison.

sometimes becoming organized crime, sometimes nothing more than hoodlums.

granted there are some bad asses, but id think most are cowardly people that act tough because of backup.

I know back in the day when i hung around dubious people, it felt pretty good, like people respected/feared me. we'd get into occasional brawls with other groups from other schools. it was exciting.

however that life didn't suit me in the end and i didn't enjoy looking over my shoulder all the time.

...sounds like Yakuza...there also here in Vancouver :pokerface: but their massively strict like that too wearing suits & staying under the radar.

lmao i rmb the old high school days

when every other asian kid said they were in a gang

either bc / tc / wc

now if u think of it if i was actually in BC in HK and i hear that a bunch of high school asian kids are calling themselves BC id be pretty damn pissed.

Yup, these guys are the ones who do all the dirty work. The HA are so "behind the scenes". A lot of them are well educated and come from all walks of life. They are very intelligent. They have to be, to be a few steps ahead of the law.