lawl then you must disagree with DriveSmartBC and the MVA.
Not to mention every other person that disagrees with you.
http://www.drivesmartbc.ca/intersect...ing-left-turns

Motor Vehicle Act

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Ya I don't think an oncoming bendy bus is an immediate hazard at all.

Besides, if we can't prove the light was yellow, how can you be sooo sure that it was red?
For all we know, the light could have gone red the second the bus left the line.

I love how adamant you are though. Not many people are as persistent as you in proving they're correct.

Just because the light changes, doesnt tell you that you MUST turn if its not safe to do so... its common sense, as I have stated.. If you are not sure, WAIT and see until you are sure... Theres no point being reckless and endanger yourself and others...

The scooter rider does seem like a prick...
from his facebook:

What a dick. It just freaks him out. Honking the horn gets the attention of a driver if he/she isn't paying attention. WTF would you use it for?

^ :lawl: maybe he can trade one of his cameras for a train horn so he can horn people back :troll:

Always give more space for buses especially during rush hour. No bus driver will risk having 50 people fall and getting injured because of another driver's misjudgment and error.

Regardless of what the law says, if you're on a scooter and you go up against a bus, you will ALWAYS come out on the losing end. "Right of way" doesn't do you any good if you're dead.

squiders gon' squid

guy's a dumbass for turning, would've been hit no matter if he's on a scooter or car

I dont' think you get it. It doesnt' matter if the light is red or yellow. If the bus was not safely able to stop for the light within a reasonable amount of time, they still have the right of way. Yellow or red. Bottom line, it's the left turners responsibility to make sure the intersection is clear. This has happened to me MULTIPLE times while in my car and on my bike. I start turning then hit the brakes when I realize the car is not stopping. You think a bus driver is going to slam on his brakes and throw all the passengers around on the bus just so he makes the yellow instead of the red? I don't thinks so.

Not true. Really, guys.. is this NEW information? I know off hand at least two people if not three IIRC that have been at fault for a left turner accident where the light was already red.

You should see some of the other golden posts he has. Always trying to pick a fight with everyone/anyone. Again... one of the reasons I deleted him.

from his fb

Some people need to realize that stopping a bus that probably weighs 60,000lbs on 3 axles is not a easy task especially with "live loads"

he seems like an aspie. 2nd and 3rd degree road rash?

stop being a little bitch.

the scooter guy should be at fault.. the bus clearly wasn't stopping.

I like how he said the bus 'sped up to make the light'.. a bus's acceleration isn't like a car.. if they were stopping for it, you'd know. If they arent slowing down significantly, they're not stopping. this isn't rocket science..

QFT.

i hope he got a due care and attention ticket

Scooter rider is mostly at fault, but let's not forget that the bus driver could have not ran the yellow/red light either. That's the beauty of walk signals, it's an early indicator as to when the light is going to change, therefore it could be concluded that the bus driver wasn't paying enough attention in addition to the rider's lack of judgement. If not the walk signal, he could have easily judged how stale the green light was.

Whether you're in a three ton truck or a 1/2 ton car, it's still your duty to anticipate the light changing. That does not excuse the rider, he turned before it was "safe" to do so, but to place the blame on one party alone in this situation is unfair.

Just got clipped by the bus, didn't get smashed very hard. At least he bailed properly, worst part would be rolling over that curb/grate thing.

:lawl: Must be a pretty shitty rider to get so many close calls to warrant a go-pro.

I always patiently wait until it's absolutely clear before making my left turns.
Just roll your car out a bit more so it's blocking perpendicular traffic.
There's no way they won't allow you to make your left turn even if you have to wait a long time
and their side turns green. Cause you're blocking their path.

Another tip is to not turn your wheel left until you actually start turning.
Cause if some idiot rear ends you while your wheel's already pointed in the turn position,
you'll get bumped right into a head on collision from the opposite traffic.

And don't assume it's safe to turn left just because the opposite traffic vehicle has it's left turn signal.
They're many bad drivers that might just go straight through without realizing their turn signal is even on.
Use your judgement of speed... if the vehicle looks like it's going way too fast,
it's probably not about to enter a drift. It most likely means it's not turning, despite the signal.


Regardless who's at fault, I'm just glad everyone is okay.
He's lucky he didn't encounter that Russian Bus Driver.
Cause knowing that bus driver, he would have sped up just to teach him a lesson.
:lawl:

"lawl", you've got some difficulty with reading comprehension there, don't you?
As I said before, the guy taking the left is ALWAYS stupid for not waiting for the intersection to be safe to turn into, but that does not necessarily make him at fault by the book, as far as I understand anyway.

Again, scooter guy is still the dumbest one in this situation. Thus, I do not disagree with drivesmartbc, nor am I disagreeing with anyone on this thread that regardless of the light, the left turner should have enough common sense to ensure his path is safe...

totally unrelated to topic, but i just noticed that you end every post with an ellipsis lol

If horns "freak him out" he clearly isn't confident enough to even be on 2 wheels on a public roadway. He's already shown his inability to be aware of his surroundings on this. (how the fuck can you not tell a 50 foot long bus is coming at you at 60 km/h) How many other times do you think he's "been freaked out by horns" because he was riding like an unaware putz?

I hope the scooter guy is at fault

Not siding with anyone in this case, frankly i think the guy with the scooter should have ensured it was safe for him to make his left turn before proceeding. That being said, i work by the corner of Main and Terminal and quite often see Buses coming flying through late yellows or just recently turned Reds even, when they do this i have seen lots of close calls with pedestrians who are getting ready to cross the road. Very dangerous and resulted in a fatality last year.

http://www.vancouversun.com/Woman+st...006/story.html