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dangonay 09-17-2013 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by R5x (Post 8321154)
The Nexus 4 stock situation was terrible at launch but was resolved by February (3 months after launch). Your statement is kind of overblown as there was not always limited availabilities and quick sellouts. It was never intended as a mainstream device and Google knew this. As far as the lucky consumers that snagged one, it was incredibly easy after the initial problems if a consumer was patient enough.

I know you're an iOS developer so your biases and preferences are well known, but objectively I'm just wondering if you've ever used an Android or Windows Phone product from a consumer point of view as an actual "daily driver"; especially a Nexus 4-level product and up for Android. The actual experience has been great for me coming from an iOS device and same with people I know. From my small sample size of friends, I haven't really had any that switched from iOS to Android then complained about a specific app that they MUST have that was on iOS and not on Android which forced them to switch back to an iPhone. They were always either ported (eventually) or an alternative exists.

It just sounds like the majority of your arguments against Android are aimed from a developer's point of view (which as I understand it from your posts, the Android development is inferior to iOS). I know I would totally try a Windows Phone for my next phone if the OS were improved and apps were available. Just wondering if objectively you would too?

I develop for Android and iOS. Less so for Android recently but I still keep up to date with the latest SDK and changes. BTW, I have never stated developing for iOS was superior to Android - in fact they both have their good and bad points from a developers POV (which I have gone into before, but nobody on RS seems interested in actually getting into this technical of a discussion).

The Nexus 4 is dirt cheap compared to an iPhone, HTC One or GS4. Not because Google has convinced suppliers to sell them parts at half price. Not because Google has invented new production techniques that allow them to make the Nexus 4 for less than other phone manufacturers. They priced it low so that a) developers to get a new device with the latest version of Android and b) to use as a marketing technique.

The people who got one should be happy they were able to get a phone for such a low price. They should also realize why it's priced so low.

SkinnyPupp 09-17-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dangonay (Post 8321952)
The people who got one should be happy they were able to get a phone

You make it sound like this is hard to do... It's not. Aside from an initial shortage (which is the same with any popular device) they have been readily available for anyone to order, until they stopped the 8GB a couple weeks ago.
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Originally Posted by dangonay (Post 8321952)
They should also realize why it's priced so low.

Who cares? All that matters is they got a good phone for a good price, without giving up anything in return.

It's like pointing out Samsung using a reference ARMv8 design rather than custom.. to the customer it doesn't matter. You are just fishing (REALLY deep this time) for some reason to be angry at an Apple competitor.

I always said that I never hated Apple (or any other manufacturer - I don't care) but the Apple fans.. you are the perfect example. Actually moreso, because you DO know better. Yet you keep trying to disparage any Apple competitor to the point where it gets silly

370z370z 09-30-2013 03:38 PM

Windows Phone are actually pretty good.
lack of app yes. But WP8 is essentially their G1 product. I remember Andriod sucks too in 1.0

!LittleDragon 09-30-2013 06:21 PM

My next phone's going to be a Lumia 1020. Kinda grew up over the years, now I don't care about the OS, number of apps, specs, etc. I look at my S3, iPhone and Z10, there's maybe less than 10 apps I actually use. Everything else is for bragging.

I'm happy as long as it can make calls, send texts, get emails, youtube and navigate. The 1020's camera is one feature that actually makes it stand out from all the other phones. Could care less what OS it ran.

StylinRed 09-30-2013 09:15 PM

then you should buy the 808 pureview instead :) its got the better camera and its cheaper than the 1020 ;)

the 1020 will be available through Rogers on Oct 3rd btw

!LittleDragon 09-30-2013 09:43 PM

I thought about the 808 a while back but the OS is defunct, the screen res isn't up to today's standards, etc. For what it is, I was waiting for it to drop to the $200 price range but Nokia dropped a Pureview with a modern OS. Sure it costs more, oh well... company's paying for it anyways...

dangonay 10-05-2013 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8321960)
You make it sound like this is hard to do... It's not. Aside from an initial shortage (which is the same with any popular device) they have been readily available for anyone to order, until they stopped the 8GB a couple weeks ago.

Who cares? All that matters is they got a good phone for a good price, without giving up anything in return.

It's like pointing out Samsung using a reference ARMv8 design rather than custom.. to the customer it doesn't matter. You are just fishing (REALLY deep this time) for some reason to be angry at an Apple competitor.

I always said that I never hated Apple (or any other manufacturer - I don't care) but the Apple fans.. you are the perfect example. Actually moreso, because you DO know better. Yet you keep trying to disparage any Apple competitor to the point where it gets silly

To paraphrase another poster on RS...

My mop is not big enough for all this hypocrisy.
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Gt-R R34 10-06-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by !LittleDragon (Post 8330382)
My next phone's going to be a Lumia 1020. Kinda grew up over the years, now I don't care about the OS, number of apps, specs, etc. I look at my S3, iPhone and Z10, there's maybe less than 10 apps I actually use. Everything else is for bragging.

I'm happy as long as it can make calls, send texts, get emails, youtube and navigate. The 1020's camera is one feature that actually makes it stand out from all the other phones. Could care less what OS it ran.

I'm pretty similar now...only thing is battery life is important as well

yray 10-06-2013 11:43 AM

^nokia... battery life :fuckthatshit:

lets hope warranty gives me a new battery this time around

bcrdukes 10-30-2013 11:32 AM

Sorry to bump an old thread / wrong thread (whatever)

But...have any of you upgraded from the Lumia 920 to the new 1020? If so, yay or nay?


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