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masterroshi 10-19-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by haha13 (Post 8342463)
They used to only have an accounting honours program at SFU where you need to maintain a 3.0 GPA to stay in the program but they recently changed it to a regular accounting program so you do not need to have 3.0 GPA. However if you are pursuing to get into the big4, you better have a high GPA.

You can find more information here: Revised Accounting Concentration | Fall 2013 | BBA News Portal

If I am trying to get into the big4, would I need to do the accounting honours or can I do the regular one?
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masterroshi 10-19-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoc (Post 8342185)
Concepts aren't abstract and very straight forward, but there is a lot of information. Get ready to cram cram cram.

Thats good, cramming is what im good at :) I dont mind abstract concepts, howver their a lot harder for me to understand. But if the materials straight forward like you said, then I should br fine.
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zetazeta 10-20-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by masterroshi (Post 8342476)
If I am trying to get into the big4, would I need to do the accounting honours or can I do the regular one?
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Regular one is fine as long as you have a decent gpa (3.3+) and good networking. Networking makes up the majority of your chances and experience, gpa are secondary.

zetazeta 10-20-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by masterroshi (Post 8342075)
I mean how complex is the business material? I know its university and its obvioualy gonna be more difficult than highschool, but is the diffculty like a physics course or is it easier to understand? Im asking this question because I need to know how much time ill be putting into the work and if ill need to stop doing some actvities to gain more time if needed (like procastinating lol)
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courses are much harder than high school, requiring you to memorize, understand, and apply the knowledge. For exam questions, they aren't going to be same as homework questions with a small change in numbers.. it's going to be based off homework questions and most likely goes a step further to separate those that kind of understand, and those that completely understand. You will have to put in time to study, ask questions (office hours/friends) and practice to achieve good marks for lower division curved (business) classes.

masterroshi 10-20-2013 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by zetazeta (Post 8343184)
courses are much harder than high school, requiring you to memorize, understand, and apply the knowledge. For exam questions, they aren't going to be same as homework questions with a small change in numbers.. it's going to be based off homework questions and most likely goes a step further to separate those that kind of understand, and those that completely understand. You will have to put in time to study, ask questions (office hours/friends) and practice to achieve good marks for lower division curved (business) classes.

I already put in about 4-5 hours on highschool work. Im also prepared to add to that in university. Someone previously wrote that the business courses arnt curved at kwantlen. Im not sure whose correct...
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J.C 10-20-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by zetazeta (Post 8343184)
courses are much harder than high school, requiring you to memorize, understand, and apply the knowledge. For exam questions, they aren't going to be same as homework questions with a small change in numbers.. it's going to be based off homework questions and most likely goes a step further to separate those that kind of understand, and those that completely understand. You will have to put in time to study, ask questions (office hours/friends) and practice to achieve good marks for lower division curved (business) classes.

+1
got fucked hard on my first couple exams because i thought they were going to be basic questions from the homework assignments

masterroshi 10-20-2013 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by J.C (Post 8343255)
+1
got fucked hard on my first couple exams because i thought they were going to be basic questions from the homework assignments

How much time did you put into studying? Also, if the tests dont include stuff from the homework, then how would you understand the stuff on the test?? Now im getting scared :/
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Purely 10-20-2013 07:15 PM

^+1 for zetazeta.

By the way, I remember zetazeta writing something about SFU's business curve vs UBC's (in terms of grading differences) but I can't seem to find it.. would be great if he could chime in again. Something along the lines of.. unfair SFU grading/more difficult.

To masterroshi, not trying to scare you or anything.. but the jump from HS to ANY post-secondary is huge. HS doesn't prepare you for university imo (at least it didn't prepare me). I had an extremely low GPA for my first term. To reinforce what zetazeta/j.c said, you really need to understand the material to do well in some courses (e.g., econ/accounting let's say). Even in "pure" memorization courses.. you need to be able to apply the correct terms.

It's nearing the end of October, and you still have tons of time to bring your grades up. Take a look at Trix's advice (grades, learning how to make your EC's sound good).

masterroshi 10-20-2013 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gYU (Post 8343322)
^+1 for zetazeta.

By the way, I remember zetazeta writing something about SFU's business curve vs UBC's (in terms of grading differences) but I can't seem to find it.. would be great if he could chime in again. Something along the lines of.. unfair SFU grading/more difficult.

To masterroshi, not trying to scare you or anything.. but the jump from HS to ANY post-secondary is huge. HS doesn't prepare you for university imo (at least it didn't prepare me). I had an extremely low GPA for my first term. To reinforce what zetazeta/j.c said, you really need to understand the material to do well in some courses (e.g., econ/accounting let's say). Even in "pure" memorization courses.. you need to be able to apply the correct terms.

It's nearing the end of October, and you still have tons of time to bring your grades up. Take a look at Trix's advice (grades, learning how to make your EC's sound good).

Yea, I do have a lot of time, i took law 12 in summer school and got 89%, and Im gonna take it again online and aim for 92%+ since I already know the material.
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J.C 10-20-2013 10:56 PM

10+ hours studying...got 11/35 (curved so a 10.5 was a pass)
same with my other course
spent equal amount of time studying, but didn't know jackshit on the exam

it's not how long you study but how and what you study is what i learned
i should've spent more time actually practicing and applying what i was reading rather than just trying to memorize everything
the exams aren't basic homework questions like zetazeta said, they take everything they've taught you and ask you questions that require critical analysis and application that easily reveal if you actually fully understand the material or not

went thru the first 6 weeks of lectures thinking uni was easy...until the exams hit lol

Purely 10-20-2013 11:45 PM

^ what course you taking lol

J.C 10-20-2013 11:48 PM

econ 103 and 105 were the exams that i got buttfucked

zetazeta 10-21-2013 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by masterroshi (Post 8343208)
I already put in about 4-5 hours on highschool work. Im also prepared to add to that in university. Someone previously wrote that the business courses arnt curved at kwantlen. Im not sure whose correct...
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Shit mybad, don't know how the grading works for Kwantlen, was referring to SFU. If you already put in 4-5 hrs in HS per week, I think you will need to triple that for University. For reference, my friend and I put in 1 hr / week in HS and average about 3 hrs in university.

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Originally Posted by gYU (Post 8343322)
^+1 for zetazeta.

By the way, I remember zetazeta writing something about SFU's business curve vs UBC's (in terms of grading differences) but I can't seem to find it.. would be great if he could chime in again. Something along the lines of.. unfair SFU grading/more difficult.

To masterroshi, not trying to scare you or anything.. but the jump from HS to ANY post-secondary is huge. HS doesn't prepare you for university imo (at least it didn't prepare me). I had an extremely low GPA for my first term. To reinforce what zetazeta/j.c said, you really need to understand the material to do well in some courses (e.g., econ/accounting let's say). Even in "pure" memorization courses.. you need to be able to apply the correct terms

I don't remember what I wrote, but feel free to ask/pm me anything SFU Business related (curve, grading, TA, co-op, courses, electives.....) I was somewhat involved at SFU (TA'd both upper division and lower division courses, co-op, club involvement, etc.....) so I have a bit of knowledge about Beedie.

Similar to g.yu (i think you were in my 254 class?....) I had a low GPA in my first 6 semesters at SFU and it wasn't until my late 3rd/4th year that I started to pick it up... and by then it was too late unfortunately. Make good friends at university, I had friends who were in the high 2.x - low 3.x gpa region so I thought achieving a 3.0 was good. It is not. The biggest difference between my upper division GPA and lower division was not just the curve difference (upper division curves up to 50% A's for select courses), but it was the understanding of how to study and prepare for courses/projects/presentations/assignments. Once you get the hang of things, it makes studying a breeze (you still have to put in a lot of effort but it was achievable).

In high school, I used to read the material once or twice, do a few practice questions and I would get decent marks (80%+). It doesn't work that way in university, you have to make sure you understand each practice and lecture question inside out. What I mean is if they give you variables X, Y, Z and ask you to solve for A, you better make sure you can solve for X, Y or Z if they swap the given variables around. Questions for exams will not be in the same format as your practice. They will give you different variables and solve for something else. If you just memorize how to do a certain type of question, you won't succeed. You need to know how to solve for every possible variable or even combination(s) of variables during your test. An example from one of my courses, students would often solve for a particular cost per unit based on given information and present their answers in a $#.## / unit for homework and lecture examples. On the exam, there was a twist to it, in the sense that the cost per unit was given as variable "Y" and students were asked to solve the rest of the numbers expressed in variable "Y". Most students knew how to solve the practice questions but once they were asked to solve the question backwards and with a non-number variable instead of given #'s, they could not do it...

Curve for lower division courses sucks at SFU. There was an article which said that SFU was the hardest university to get an A among the west coast. Since you're from Kwantlen, you might want to take a look at how transfers to SFU works because several years back, they used to deduct 0.3 GPA from all transfers (so if you have a 3.3 GPA at Kwantlen, they will evaluate you at 3.0). I have a friend who had a 3.9 at Kwantlen business and is struggling to pass courses at Sauder.

Cr33pUh 10-21-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by J.C (Post 8343516)
econ 103 and 105 were the exams that i got buttfucked

Science student here who sucks at making graphs that took econ 105 for shitz and giggles.

never again.

xXSupa 10-21-2013 10:30 AM

The first 3 midterms I took in first year. Class averages were 59%, 48%, and 47%. That's when I realized this is not high school anymore. lol. Even though I got above average on all 3, those averages were scary..

masterroshi 10-21-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by zetazeta (Post 8343603)
Shit mybad, don't know how the grading works for Kwantlen, was referring to SFU. If you already put in 4-5 hrs in HS per week, I think you will need to triple that for University. For reference, my friend and I put in 1 hr / week in HS and average about 3 hrs in university.


I don't remember what I wrote, but feel free to ask/pm me anything SFU Business related (curve, grading, TA, co-op, courses, electives.....) I was somewhat involved at SFU (TA'd both upper division and lower division courses, co-op, club involvement, etc.....) so I have a bit of knowledge about Beedie.

Similar to g.yu (i think you were in my 254 class?....) I had a low GPA in my first 6 semesters at SFU and it wasn't until my late 3rd/4th year that I started to pick it up... and by then it was too late unfortunately. Make good friends at university, I had friends who were in the high 2.x - low 3.x gpa region so I thought achieving a 3.0 was good. It is not. The biggest difference between my upper division GPA and lower division was not just the curve difference (upper division curves up to 50% A's for select courses), but it was the understanding of how to study and prepare for courses/projects/presentations/assignments. Once you get the hang of things, it makes studying a breeze (you still have to put in a lot of effort but it was achievable).

In high school, I used to read the material once or twice, do a few practice questions and I would get decent marks (80%+). It doesn't work that way in university, you have to make sure you understand each practice and lecture question inside out. What I mean is if they give you variables X, Y, Z and ask you to solve for A, you better make sure you can solve for X, Y or Z if they swap the given variables around. Questions for exams will not be in the same format as your practice. They will give you different variables and solve for something else. If you just memorize how to do a certain type of question, you won't succeed. You need to know how to solve for every possible variable or even combination(s) of variables during your test. An example from one of my courses, students would often solve for a particular cost per unit based on given information and present their answers in a $#.## / unit for homework and lecture examples. On the exam, there was a twist to it, in the sense that the cost per unit was given as variable "Y" and students were asked to solve the rest of the numbers expressed in variable "Y". Most students knew how to solve the practice questions but once they were asked to solve the question backwards and with a non-number variable instead of given #'s, they could not do it...

Curve for lower division courses sucks at SFU. There was an article which said that SFU was the hardest university to get an A among the west coast. Since you're from Kwantlen, you might want to take a look at how transfers to SFU works because several years back, they used to deduct 0.3 GPA from all transfers (so if you have a 3.3 GPA at Kwantlen, they will evaluate you at 3.0). I have a friend who had a 3.9 at Kwantlen business and is struggling to pass courses at Sauder.

How would you make sure you understand if you dont know what kidn of questions will be on the test? Do you have to be able to apply the stuff leanrt from the material? Is that what you mean?
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Geoc 10-21-2013 01:13 PM

Asking this many question is not really going to prepare you for whats to come. Best way is to apply to get into the school you want, take non-core course for first term and get manhandled. After that, you'll have a general idea of what to expect for core courses.

Some courses's difficulty cannot be explained.

zetazeta 10-21-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by masterroshi (Post 8343745)
How would you make sure you understand if you dont know what kidn of questions will be on the test? Do you have to be able to apply the stuff leanrt from the material? Is that what you mean?
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Well, there's no point telling you 1-2 years before you take these courses. Shoot me a PM then...

Purely 10-21-2013 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by J.C (Post 8343516)
econ 103 and 105 were the exams that i got buttfucked

To this day.. Econ 103 still haunts me LOL. If you're in D.Allen.. good luck for his final. Good class though, I can still apply some of the concepts I learned to real life.

masterroshi 10-21-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoc (Post 8343751)
Asking this many question is not really going to prepare you for whats to come. Best way is to apply to get into the school you want, take non-core course for first term and get manhandled. After that, you'll have a general idea of what to expect for core courses.

Some courses's difficulty cannot be explained.

Asking questions will at least show me what i will be facing in Kwantlen so I can be prepared mentally for it. (As in just preparing my self for the "shock")
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dinosaur 10-21-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoc (Post 8343751)
Asking this many question is not really going to prepare you for whats to come. Best way is to apply to get into the school you want, take non-core course for first term and get manhandled. After that, you'll have a general idea of what to expect for core courses.

Some courses's difficulty cannot be explained.

he is a troll....his "thing" is to ask a billion redundant questions...

masterroshi 10-21-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dinosaur (Post 8344035)
he is a troll....his "thing" is to ask a billion redundant questions...

Actually, im just asking questions that I know will benefit me in the future :)
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dinosaur 10-21-2013 08:26 PM

sure you are ;)

J.C 10-21-2013 10:07 PM

gotta experience it for yourself

masterroshi 10-21-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dinosaur (Post 8344076)
sure you are ;)

I sure am ;)
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