I was just playing..cause in 8 years it increased the HP amount by 8, therefore in 2106, if it followed the same rate, the 2106 civic would have almost 300hp

But because its 2106 it wont use gas anymore itll be all eco alternative fuel like

Maybe thorium powered civic :fullofwin:

Ohhh.

170+lb/ft is finally half decent...the Honda of yesteryear was significantly less than that and didn't weigh that much lighter

The on-paper numbers went up by a hair, but the wheel size also went up from 17" to 18", meaning that they have likely gotten heavier.

For street use, I'm willing to bet that the pick up and go eagerness in the new car will deteriorate due to the heavier wheels. Adding insult to injury, those new wheels look rather ugly to me.

Unnecessarily big wheels are always a detriment in my books.

There's a reason for that.
The '06-'11 model had the K20Z3 that redlined at 8000, with 139 lb-ft of torque.
They've sinced switch to the K24Z6 with extra displacement, and 170 lb-ft of torque, but a redline at 7100.

From what I've heard, the engine is not nearly as fun, with VTEC not having much of an effect in this application.

I like the wheels on the base model more than the Si's

At least the dealers will be having massive price cuts on the 2013 Si's :fullofwin:

Last time I went, they were doing a $7,000 discount on the 2012 Si Sedans, so I presume they will do the same for the 2013 models.

^^ Hmm... in that case, what would happen to the 2012 Si that the dealers still have? $10k discount on those? $20k OTD for a CSi? :fullofwin:

i really hope honda starts making changes every single year from now on... or every couple years.

the front looks like a kia
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Look at the Canadian-spec Impreza STi from 2004 to 2014 :okay:

Those look like RICER wheels.

nice updates tech-wise...why bother with the ILX now?

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=1170165

New Premium Features
New innovations and premium features abound on the 2014 Honda Civic. Standard and available features include a new 7-inch Display Audio touchscreen control center with optional navigation function, convenient Smart Entry with Push Button start, expanded view driver’s mirror and Honda LaneWatch™ blind spot display for enhanced driver visibility, plus available auto on/off headlights and power driver seat with 8-way adjustability.

this gen of civic is really disappointing. watch this commercial, honda seems to apologize after restyling this gen.

Honda Introduces 280-HP Turbo 2.0L I-4 Engine in Civic Type R - Motor Trend WOT

too bad it probably wont come here.

i love this gen.
http://www.civictyper.org/images/fd2.jpg

Power isn't necessarily always the driving force (har har har) behind buying a good car. Look at the GTI - it's not particularly powerful compared to some of it's rivals, but that HP deficit is made up for by luxury and the way it handles in the corners. If Honda can make the new SI handle just as well as the EP3 SiR hatch of old, you wont care that the HP gains have been minuscule over the years.

Honda really took the term 'facelift' literally. :-\

Still happy with my '12 Si

:ahwow: wtf is wrong with honda. Every gen seems to get worst.