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Cman333 11-11-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by skholla (Post 8355957)
BOSE actually makes great products, they get a lot of flack from audiophiles for not being true to rules of hi-fi audio and they use relatively cheap components but they are like Apple. You pay for simplicity and a great overall experience. Forget the haters, give it a try and return it if you don't like it.

HTIB (home theatre in a box), most of these suck, over priced plastic junk.

You just praised BOSE but said HTIB are crap. What is BOSE most known for? HTIB.

This is exactly why "Audiophiles" dislike Bose. They make crappy stuff and make it look nice and easy to use. Their home theatre towers are garbage. Sound flat, lack mid range/bass, and have no presence in comparison to many others on the market.

And OP's budget is $500. Good luck with any bose system at that price (Sound dock?)



Personally I would just go with some bookshelf speakers, a reciever, and eventually add a sub. Satellite speakers never did anything for me. Especially for music, you miss alllllllllllllllllllllll the mid range and vocals always lack depth. Better off spending it on one good pair of speakers. On craigslist there was a set of Focal Electra's selling for $300 (2k retail), someone snagged them up before me :(

Lomac 11-11-2013 12:21 PM

Bose... :heckno:

I got a 2.1 Bose system many years ago. For the price, it was good (it was free lol) but the dynamic range was terrible. The only thing I truly liked about it was the fact that the remote could be used anywhere in the house and didn't require line of sight to operate it. Bose does make some decent equipment but I'd be more inclined to spend my money on other brands (Energy, Focal, Harman/Kardon, Speakercraft, etc)

Hell, right now I've got a Logitech Z623 speaker system hooked up to one of my TV's and it's already a far better sound improvement over the Bose system. :lol

skholla 11-11-2013 02:36 PM

By "HTIB" I mean all the lower-mid end plastic enclosed systems by LG, Samsung, Sony, etc. Some stand out from the herd like the Sony that I posted, and others are a great value for the price point like the Vizio. In my experience the BOSE Cinemate sounds better than a lot of these systems and seems to have a better build quality and sound less hollow or tinny.

I totally missed the part were the OP had a $500 budget. In that case I would also recommend a basic receiver and a pair of bookshelf speakers. Or check out the ZVOX 555 or 580. Simple setup, compact, good mid range and on budget.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Cman333 (Post 8359577)
You just praised BOSE but said HTIB are crap. What is BOSE most known for? HTIB.

This is exactly why "Audiophiles" dislike Bose. They make crappy stuff and make it look nice and easy to use. Their home theatre towers are garbage. Sound flat, lack mid range/bass, and have no presence in comparison to many others on the market.

And OP's budget is $500. Good luck with any bose system at that price (Sound dock?)



Personally I would just go with some bookshelf speakers, a reciever, and eventually add a sub. Satellite speakers never did anything for me. Especially for music, you miss alllllllllllllllllllllll the mid range and vocals always lack depth. Better off spending it on one good pair of speakers. On craigslist there was a set of Focal Electra's selling for $300 (2k retail), someone snagged them up before me :(


Tapioca 11-11-2013 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cman333 (Post 8359577)
Personally I would just go with some bookshelf speakers, a reciever, and eventually add a sub. Satellite speakers never did anything for me. Especially for music, you miss alllllllllllllllllllllll the mid range and vocals always lack depth. Better off spending it on one good pair of speakers. On craigslist there was a set of Focal Electra's selling for $300 (2k retail), someone snagged them up before me :(

I would second this. Unless your bedroom is 800 square feet, you're better off going with a 2-channel system. I would check out Craigslist or Canuck Audio Mart for good 2-channel stuff. I would start with a good quality 2-channel amplifier from Marantz or Denon and some good speakers from a company like Paradigm.

Sometimes, you get lucky and get something like this for under $500 (I did):

Pioneer Elite X-Z9 Hi-Fi Network Media Audio System - Newegg.com

Cman333 11-11-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by skholla (Post 8359711)
By "HTIB" I mean all the lower-mid end plastic enclosed systems by LG, Samsung, Sony, etc. Some stand out from the herd like the Sony that I posted, and others are a great value for the price point like the Vizio. In my experience the BOSE Cinemate sounds better than a lot of these systems and seems to have a better build quality and sound less hollow or tinny.

I totally missed the part were the OP had a $500 budget. In that case I would also recommend a basic receiver and a pair of bookshelf speakers. Or check out the ZVOX 555 or 580. Simple setup, compact, good mid range and on budget.

I agree with you that they sound better than the low end stuff, but really not much better. You pay 3x the price and get marginally better than low end. I think this is where the "haters" come in.

Generally speaking, most people don't give a shit and just want a name brand to show off, some clarity and bass.

People that are audiophiles generally are a pickier bunch. Bose isn't the crappiest stuff out there, it's just insanely overpriced with average performance at best. Their marketing is amazing. I'll give them that. :p

viet604778 11-11-2013 10:19 PM

The main reason im looking for Satellite speakers is that I can hang them up on my wall. I don't have any room on my table besides room for a reciever. Im most likely going to get the Energy 5.1 system, anyone know where to get these local?

skholla 11-12-2013 11:44 PM

Selling for $800 at Futureshop and $350 on Amazon/Newegg.COM... Shipping to Blaine is probably worth it. Or stay on the look out for local sales, I think Visions may carry Energy too.
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Manic! 11-13-2013 12:09 AM

The Monoprice version is the same just cheaper.

skholla 11-20-2013 07:22 PM

Good deal...

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Big.Xero 12-09-2013 03:36 PM

How do you guys get around hiding the cables? My problem with my set up is that the back speakers always show the cables. Really looks ugly on carpet, and the landlord won't let me pull back the carpet to tuck the wires in.

lowside67 12-09-2013 04:20 PM

Just tuck them under the mouldings where the carpet meets the wall.

skholla 12-09-2013 08:33 PM

Don't need permission to peel up the edge of the carpet, if you are not causing damage it's all good.

Or go with Flatwire... But then you will permission to paint and may have to re-paint after you move.
Speaker Wire

Manic! 12-09-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by skholla (Post 8379068)
Don't need permission to peel up the edge of the carpet, if you are not causing damage it's all good.

Or go with Flatwire... But then you will permission to paint and may have to reaping after you move.
Speaker Wire

What if you use painters tape first then the speaker wire?:concentrate:

StylinRed 12-09-2013 11:56 PM

you could run em behind the drywall

install something like this

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/4...ont-b-Plug.jpg

if the landlord notices the nice job and still bitches than you can patch up the drywall when ye move out :)

Manic! 12-10-2013 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8379232)
you could run em behind the drywall

install something like this

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/4...ont-b-Plug.jpg

if the landlord notices the nice job and still bitches than you can patch up the drywall when ye move out :)

How are you going to get the wire thru the studs?

StylinRed 12-10-2013 01:20 AM

you get into the crawlspace and fish the wires through with fish tape


or to save all hassle he could buy wireless speakers


edit: how to from Crutchfield http://www.crutchfield.com/S-XH9Yrpe...ll_wiring.html
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SpuGen 12-10-2013 01:22 AM

I have the Logitech Z5500's

You could probably get the Z906, and be happy.

It doesn't matter how much money you throw at a system, or the quality of the speakers. You'll always be limited by the acoustics in the room.

I'm assuming you're gonna be running this off of your computer? Get a good soundcard. Play with the speaker placement, get a audio tuner, and just tune, tune, tune until you get the sound you want.

Manic! 12-10-2013 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SpuGen (Post 8379258)
I have the Logitech Z5500's

You could probably get the Z906, and be happy.

It doesn't matter how much money you throw at a system, or the quality of the speakers. You'll always be limited by the acoustics in the room.

I'm assuming you're gonna be running this off of your computer? Get a good soundcard. Play with the speaker placement, get a audio tuner, and just tune, tune, tune until you get the sound you want.

I don't believe that's true. In an audio system the speakers have the biggest affect on sound. My Behringer studio monitors have sounded great no matter the location or source. My smaller M audio speakers never have sounded that good no matter what the source or location.


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