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Evolutionian 11-20-2013 05:42 PM

shit.. this must've been a awful experience for the old fella. I hate unlashed dogs, especially aggressive ones, I see them everywhere when I ride scooters in Taiwan, and lots shops would have those Taiwanese Canis, native dogs of Taiwan as guard dogs.. super aggressive.. Everyday I get chased by them..

4x4runner 11-20-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Evolutionian (Post 8366040)
shit.. this must've been a awful experience for the old fella. I hate unlashed dogs, especially aggressive ones, I see them everywhere when I ride scooters in Taiwan, and lots shops would have those Taiwanese Canis, native dogs of Taiwan as guard dogs.. super aggressive.. Everyday I get chased by them..

you cant compare wild dogs in Taiwan, as they ve become Wild, and they roam in packs. I know what you mean tho, I m from the same country and they chase after you when you re riding your scooter.

Jas29 11-20-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PeanutButter (Post 8366027)
That is quite the offer, thank you. I don't think I would be able to though, I get pretty anxious whenever I see them. Maybe one day, but I don't think that day will be anytime soon =/

Peanutbutter if i was you I would at least think about Ice boys offer especially if he has a muzzle for his dog then you would have nothing to be worried about

I've had good and bad experiences with pitbulls. My dog has been attacked by pitbulls twice once when he was 10 weeks old at the dog park and recently while I was taking him for a walk.

The real problem are the owners the first time the lady had never brought her dog to the dog park(he was 2 years old) before nor did she take her dog for a walk before coming (he had a lot of pent up energy) It ended up with the pitbull head butting my dog and then running after a rottweiler.

2nd time my dog was attacked the owner of the pitbull started whipping his dog with his leash afterwards.

Pitbulls are good dogs with the right owners.

Great68 11-20-2013 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 4x4runner (Post 8366037)
FUCK YOU FAGGIT, I dont give a Fuck if I get banned for calling you a Faggit.

thats the most ignorant Shit to say.

I own two pits and their the most charming dogs I ve ever owned.

you can go FUCK YOURSELF.


I feel bad for both sides of this, but I seriously dont know how I would react to a man stabbing my dog.

RIP to the Pit.


Wow. So everyone has to like pitbulls?

I hate miniature poodles (actually most tiny fru fru dogs as well). It's a free country, people can like/dislike what they want.

Lowered_Klass 11-20-2013 06:00 PM

Smaller dogs DO get away with murder, 9 times outta 10.

Most of the time owners and people laugh it off, thinking it's funny or 'cute'. Bottom line is, these misbehaved little shits often start fights with other, sometimes bigger dogs (not always pit bulls!). I've seen it a thousand times, and boils my blood. I'd like to see a crack down on smaller, aggresive dogs. Let's not just single out a couple breeds, lets crack down on all dogs.

Makes you wonder if this pug did in fact start the fight by being a little asshole? Not to stereotype, but often older people are the WORST offenders when it comes to spoiling and not training their dogs... perfect recipie for disaster... not saying that was the case here, but it wouldn't shock me.

If pitty owners aren't able to control their dogs properly, then perhaps the need to leave the house with a muzzle on. So if things go south, at least it's fall back option.

Or a better idea, carry a break stick with them in case the worst happens, and you need to break up a fight. They look like this:

http://www.pbrc.net/images/stick.jpg

I'm sure a few of the pitty owners here have seen them, have one, etc. (They are used to literally pry open the jaws of your dog to help loosen the grip and open their mouths).

4x4runner 11-20-2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 8366059)
Wow. So everyone has to like pitbulls?

I hate miniature poodles (actually most tiny fru fru dogs as well). It's a free country, people can like/dislike what they want.

Did I Say the member has to like pits?

But what reason does he/she have to "hate" on them?

Same goes to you, explain why you "hate" mini poodles.

flagella 11-20-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 4x4runner (Post 8366037)
FUCK YOU FAGGIT, I dont give a Fuck if I get banned for calling you a Faggit.

thats the most ignorant Shit to say.

I own two pits and their the most charming dogs I ve ever owned.

you can go FUCK YOURSELF.


I feel bad for both sides of this, but I seriously dont know how I would react to a man stabbing my dog.

RIP to the Pit.

wow... rage much?

4x4runner 11-20-2013 06:14 PM

Yes, took too much steroids this morning.

jlo mein 11-20-2013 06:16 PM

Old man is lucky the pitbull owner didn't try to kill him. Remember that story this past year of a small dog owner who's dog was attacked, then the owner's leg got bitten after he tried to fight off the pitbull? Then the pitbull owner pulled a knife out and threatened him?

Irresponsible dog owner lets pitbull attack another dog and person - do you know who this is? : vancouver

http://www.burnabynow.com/news/dog-a...scene-1.407087

4x4runner 11-20-2013 06:19 PM

^ the girl owner is probably so shocked herself she didn't know how to respond.

I dont even want to imagine what it feels like for her to see her dog being stabbed to death.

jonwon 11-20-2013 06:35 PM

Why is it that most pitbull owners treat their dogs like shit and result in the creation of a beast... This happens to pitbulls more than any other "aggressive" breeds. I think most (not saying all, so please dont be offended) pitbull owners purchased the dog to act "hard". I think thats what is giving these dogs a bad rep and it really needs to stop. Ive encountered small dogs that are vicious as fuck and large dogs like rotties that are the sweetest thing. And like humans, if a dog is raised bad, it will reflect on its mannerisms.
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meowjinboo 11-20-2013 06:40 PM

was it actually a pitbull. people thought jasper (my staffie) was a pitbull.

2damaxmr2 11-20-2013 06:46 PM

Knife vs pit bull vs .455 Webley.

jonwon 11-20-2013 06:47 PM

i watch a ton of these and they always stress that dogs are a reflection of their owners.


Ludepower 11-20-2013 06:49 PM

What are the rules to carrying knives?
I for one like to applaud this badass old man. That some premeditated shiet....lol

4x4runner 11-20-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jonwon (Post 8366087)
Why is it that most pitbull owners treat their dogs like shit and result in the creation of a beast... This happens to pitbulls more than any other "aggressive" breeds. I think most (not saying all, so please dont be offended) pitbull owners purchased the dog to act "hard". I think thats what is giving these dogs a bad rep and it really needs to stop. Ive encountered small dogs that are vicious as fuck and large dogs like rotties that are the sweetest thing. And like humans, if a dog is raised bad, it will reflect on its mannerisms.
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I have to agree with you on this, alot of teenagers buys them just to look "tough", this is by far the stupidest reason to buy a dog.

they dont even know how to care for a dog, so the dogs are mostly home alone and untrained. They never get walks so they have so much energy WHEN they do get one.
and they dont associate with other dogs, everything is so new and strange to them.

as many have already said "how a dog behave is how the owner trains it" and its 99% true, there is that 1% where the dogs are just born fucked in the head.

if you dont correct a mistake when you see one it will lead to another and the result is a story like this.

I wish there was more control over owning dogs, but sadly its just not gonna happen.
governments arent gonna drop $$$ on something like this.

also, for the people here that dont like pits.

you guys should watch a few episodes of pitbulls and parolees.
look at how the dogs respond to humans EVEN after being treated like shit and left out to die without food or water.

N.V.M. 11-20-2013 06:52 PM

are the breeds of the dogs relevant in any way to this story? no!

westopher 11-20-2013 06:57 PM

Most dogs that are involved in anything are automatically labelled pitbulls because the media has created a fucking witch hunt. This is fucked. I'm willing to bet I've come across both dogs as I live right across the street from kits beach. Sure glad it wasn't my pitbull being stabbed to death.:(
People are going to be happy he saved his dog, especially from the "automatically vicious killing machine pitbull" but there could be a lot more to this story. Imagine you adopted a dog that is not dog friendly, you did what you are supposed to on a walk, kept it leashed, etc, then someone with their misbehaved off leash dog came and charged your leashed dog ending up in a fight. I've had it happen dozens of times where some shitty little untrained off leash dog comes and gets in my dogs face. Luckily Monty loves it, but what if he didn't? It certainly wouldn't be his fault. I don't know the story but just throwing scenarios out there before we hail this guy a hero. I know a guy who fits the description of a 70ish year old guy with a black pug who lives right beside me. Hes a great guy, with a great dog, however its off leash a lot. I certainly hope that wasn't the case here.
R.I.P. to the dog.

westopher 11-20-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by N.V.M. (Post 8366107)
are the breeds of the dogs relevant in any way to this story? no!

Every time I see you post I'm going to thank you since I can't thank you more than once for this. There was a story on the news that was talking about a pitbull attack and they said pitbull 22 times in the story. When it happened with a german shepard on the same news station, they said the breed once and called it a dog the rest of the story.

kunoman1 11-20-2013 07:06 PM

Initially I agree with the whole "pitbulls are scary" kind of posts because I used to deliver newspapers back in the day and those dogs (along with the other big "guard dogs") scared the shit out of me. But I've gotten to know a few more "guard dogs" and yea it's all about the owner and how they're brought up, any dog could go attack you, but at the same time these "killer dogs" can be hella friendly

MindBomber 11-20-2013 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8366017)
The thing about pitbulls is that they were bred as catch dogs (which is why they have been used as fighting dogs since pretty much the beginning).

Just like any dog breed, they can make a wonderful pet. But every breed has their own personality traits. Tracking dogs will try to track all the time, herding dogs will try to herd everything, bay dogs will try to corner or tree animals and start baying, etc.

Catch dogs will try to 'catch' things - IE grab onto its neck and not let go. Pitbulls are inherently going to 'catch' other animals, which has to be specifically trained against. I don't think you'd have to train a poodle not to grab onto a pug's neck if it comes across one.

The propensity for aggression is bred out with greater veracity than annoying traits, like baying. The breeders of Golden Retrievers, Labrador Retrievers, Poodles and other traditionally hunting breeds have bred out almost all aggression as they've become contemporary companion animals. The good breeders of Pit Bulls, and the base stock, English Bulldogs, French Bulldogs, and Boston Terriers have also bred out aggression as they've become contemporary companion animals. The average levels of aggression are thus similar. At least that's my experience. The rare bad breeders who promote aggression in Pit Bulls give the entire breed a bad name, unfortunately.

The breeds where limiting aggression has not been a priority are toy breeds, like Mini-Poodles, Chiwawas, Pomeranians, and Cocker Spaniels. They're the most mean in my experience.

Hondaracer 11-20-2013 07:17 PM

Pit bulls are naturally more aggressive than many other breads this is fact

Then people buy into a dog that has a shit breading lineage, so you've got a worse off dog from the start

Couple that with being a terrible stereotypical owner and you've got the end result

I'm not scared of any dog nor do I dislike any bread of dog, but pitbulls obviously have a reputation for a reason
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4x4runner 11-20-2013 07:25 PM

I honestly dont see how a Dog is bred OUT of aggression.

a dog is like a baby, how could a baby be born and first thing on its mind is "I m gonna grow up to hunt, kill, herd"

unless someone could give me scientific proof that a Dog can be bred into killing and all that I dont believe it.

hondaracer, I dont agree that pitbulls are "naturally" more aggressive.

I do however believe that pits have been selectively bred in the past to have stronger jaws, strength and etc.

you guys would be impressed at how much weight a 50 pound pitbull can pull.

and they have the reputation for a "reason" and that reason is back to my previous response about irresponsible owners.

also I find some media writers love to hop on that band wagon to shit on some things.

westopher 11-20-2013 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8366136)
Pit bulls are naturally more aggressive than many other breads this is fact

Why is it that they are in the top 5 dog breeds in the american canine temperament test? Maybe you should check your fucking "facts"
You want to know why you hear more about pitbull bites? Here are some FACTS.
Pitbulls are the most commonly mislabeled dogs in shelters
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil...D%20Poster.pdf
Pitbulls apparently account for over half of the dogs put through the shelter system in north america. You know why dogs end up at shelters? Its not because of super awesome responsible owners.
Pitbulls are chosen by people with aggression to be used as extensions of their own aggression. People using the animals as such have nothing to do with inherent traits of a breed.

Your PERCEPTION is not equal to FACTS.

ScizzMoney 11-20-2013 07:39 PM

My old dog used to fuck his own face. Hope that didn't reflect on me and what I do in my personal time


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