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z3german 03-08-2014 09:55 PM

Router help T_T
 
God damn,

I use MAC filtering so I dont have to set up a password

Anyways, my MAC addresses were getting to be quite plentiful, so I deleted them all except a couple that I knew. Doh, I forgot to add my main computer that I was doing it on. No big deal, went on my phone and entered in the MAC address there.

Okay... Why cant I connect to my Ethernet anymore?! But my WiFi works fine... Before I decided to clean my MAC addresses the Ethernet worked just fine, I dont see how it is related at all.

Tried unplugging router, all internet based connections, restarting computer. Looked through all the settings on my DIR655 to see if theres anything obvious but nothing I can see (Looking through the settings, I understand almost none of it.)

Thanks ahead of time, wifi I get 8mb/s, Ethernet I get like 20mb/s, So i really want to connect again.

SOLVED!

Soundy 03-08-2014 10:39 PM

Do a full reset and start over clean.

Mr.HappySilp 03-08-2014 10:55 PM

Full reset. A lot of router require a Ethernet connection in order to save the settings you made. Otherwise it won't save anything.

That's one thing I find odd in a lot of ultrabooks and mac book air since they don't have a Ethernet port, how will people be able to save and change settings to their router. I only know a hand full of routers that people can save settings through wireless and they are usually $100+

John 03-09-2014 01:34 AM

On all D-Link products, the MAC filtering applies to both the wired and wireless connections. A typical notebook has 2 MAC addresses, one for wired and one for the wireless. You did not mention that you entered the wired MAC address. Did you do this?

Presto 03-09-2014 09:25 AM

MAC filtering isn't secure, either. MACs can be easily cloned.

z3german 03-09-2014 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Presto (Post 8432041)
MAC filtering isn't secure, either. MACs can be easily cloned.

Damn, alright Ill full reset and change it to a WPA or something.

Hopefully I can regain my Ethernet connection. Let you guys know

Soundy 03-09-2014 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8431912)
Full reset. A lot of router require a Ethernet connection in order to save the settings you made. Otherwise it won't save anything.

That's one thing I find odd in a lot of ultrabooks and mac book air since they don't have a Ethernet port, how will people be able to save and change settings to their router. I only know a hand full of routers that people can save settings through wireless and they are usually $100+

Care to list some? I've NEVER come across a router that I couldn't configure and save settings from a wireless client... including cheap Belkins, D-Links, LinkSys, Planet, and more.

Soundy 03-09-2014 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John (Post 8431975)
On all D-Link products, the MAC filtering applies to both the wired and wireless connections. A typical notebook has 2 MAC addresses, one for wired and one for the wireless. You did not mention that you entered the wired MAC address. Did you do this?

Unless it's a super-fancy router with separate wireless and wired filter tables, the router doesn't care whether the connection is wired or wireless - all it's doing is matching the MAC address presented by the connecting adapter, to see if it's in the "allowed" list.

Think of it as a low-rent doorman - he doesn't care who you are, or which door you're trying to get in, as long as the name you give him is on his list.

Every network adapter has a unique MAC address given it by the builder, but it's so easy to assign a new MAC in the device properties, as Presto notes... so it's like giving the doorman someone else's name - as long as the name's the on the list, you're in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by z3german (Post 8432069)
Damn, alright Ill full reset and change it to a WPA or something.

Hopefully I can regain my Ethernet connection. Let you guys know

Normally all you'd have to do is get into the settings from a device whose MAC is in the Allowed table... OR change the MAC on a connected adapter to one that's on the list. However, it sounds like you may have muddled something else up with all your stumbling around, in which case a full reset will just give you a clean slate... otherwise you may be fighting with MAC tables and wondering why it doesn't work, while there may be something else preventing the connection that you inadvertently changed.

z3german 03-09-2014 11:29 AM

Just did a full reset, changed it to WPA

Played with QOS settings, wireless settings, advanced wireless settings. Never had faster WiFi before, and my Ethernet is back up!!!

Wifi Im hitting 20+mb/s now, whereas only Ethernet direct could get those speeds.

Thanks for the advice guys!

Soundy 03-09-2014 11:38 AM

You can still use MAC filtering, it does add another level of security. And turn of SSID broadcast as well. Any of these CAN be hacked around, but someone needs to be fairly determined to do it, and the more layers you add, the harder it gets.

Mr.HappySilp 03-09-2014 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 8432073)
Care to list some? I've NEVER come across a router that I couldn't configure and save settings from a wireless client... including cheap Belkins, D-Links, LinkSys, Planet, and more.

My 4 year old Netgear router doesn't have that feature. Mind you is only $20.

Edit and also some of the Routers my company install for customers also have that feature disable for security purpose and also easier for us to troubleshoot.

Soundy 03-09-2014 10:19 PM

Saving settings from a wireless client isn't a "feature". The ability to DISALLOW saving settings specifically from wireless clients would be a feature. Otherwise a router shouldn't care how the client is connected to it.

underscore 03-10-2014 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8432185)
My 4 year old Netgear router doesn't have that feature. Mind you is only $20.

Edit and also some of the Routers my company install for customers also have that feature disable for security purpose and also easier for us to troubleshoot.

My 6+ year old D-Link WBR-2310 lets me change settings from anything, like Soundy said disallowing config from wireless is more complex than allowing it from anything. I'm guessing most brands won't list the ability to change settings over wireless because of this.

Jmac 03-10-2014 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z3german (Post 8432079)
Just did a full reset, changed it to WPA

Played with QOS settings, wireless settings, advanced wireless settings. Never had faster WiFi before, and my Ethernet is back up!!!

Wifi Im hitting 20+mb/s now, whereas only Ethernet direct could get those speeds.

Thanks for the advice guys!

If you have a Wireless N router, some routers, especially earlier ones, limit your connection speed to 54 Mbps unless you use WPA/WPA2.


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