Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8556989)

Or is it because they blend in because they are white and speak English?

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8556992)

You don't have to be "white and speak English" to not spit in public, not cut in front of people in lines, not barge through narrow doorways, not push and shove to get where you're going, not piss on floors in bathrooms, not throw garbage on the ground, or to not be a general nuisance to other people. Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera

Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma (Post 8556898)

all i gotta say is, unless you've been exposed to the ultra rich. you have no say.

you have no fucking idea.

morals and virtue are all tight and tidy until you know the truth.

all you guys bitching about equality and "the way things should be"

well guess what, things would be, if it were meant to be. but the truth is, money and power conquers ALL. including ALL VIRTUES AND MORALS AND IDEALS.

once you fucking get exposed to the lifestyle of FREEDOM. to do whatever the fuck you want, at a whim. you guys will be converted as well.

no one is immune to that shit. unless you're a monk. which you guys are not.

we live in a gangster world. a pyramid. the top leads the bottom. it always has and always will be like that.

we are the epitome of the animal kingdom. animals are the most gangster of all living beings.

and we are the fucking apex predator of that kingdom.

im really sorry to say... sorry, if you're poor, not only do you have no idea, but you have no say.

it will take 100,000 of the poor to even voice the opinion of 1 rich.

it's just the way existence is. i don't like it either. but guess what. ive accepted the way existence is. there is no changing it. the underlying problem is not ideals, not morals, not virtues.

the underlying problem is the way human beings are. human beings are the reason things are the way they are.

instead of trying to change it. fuck it, existence/god/whatever you believe in, a higher power, has dictated the way things will be. the order of things.

instead of trying to cover it up and paint it pretty.... just fucking submit and join the flow.

you mother fuckers always trying to ice skate uphill. good luck.

don't change the system. join it. you cannot ever hope to change it. you are just a fucking human being living in existence. the rules, laws, and order of flow have been dictated far before life even existed.

the cosmos dictates power rules all. join it. make money. cuz that's the only real power you'll ever have, second to brute force.

that is the only cosmic truth. power. influence.


complaining about fairness, virtues, morals... is the same as a kid complaining about fairness. you guys are fucking adults. you should know by now fairness is just a fairytale.

the world ain't fucking fair. climb to the top, or bitch about it. there's no in between.



realise the people in power are lions. bitch all you want. they'll eat you regardless.


the real life matrix. take the blue pill, and you keep believing whatever bullshit you believe. take the red pill, and you see what the truth is. you get exposed to the hard truth of reality. take the red pill and you'll realise, money is the real world. the rest of you are living in some bullshit idealistic matrix world. it's fake. it's just to keep the average person happy and obedient, content.

it's very simple. stop thinking with your brain, and just look with your eyes and senses. look at history. look at man.
when have things EVER been different? instead of wishing, and hoping things were different, just look at the way things ACTUALLY are. go with the flow. you can never win fighting the stream of the river. submit to existence. or die a martyr of some bullshit idealistic fairness. no different than allah akbar. your virtues are skewed and inaccurate. there will be no justice. no 100 virgins for you guys. it will just be pain and suffering. regret. fuck that shit.

Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma (Post 8556900)

Division of Labour: Our tax system explained in beer.

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:
The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.
So, that's what they decided to do.

The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20."

Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?' They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.
"I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, "but he got $10!"
"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!"
"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!"
"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.
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hey assholes, don't fucking bite the hand that feeds.

Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 8556621)

Yada yada yada...

All I read here is people arguing whether or not rich people deserves anything more than the ordinary folks. But fuck them...

IMHO, rich people already have more than the regular joe6packs.

Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 8556621)

For the sake of argument, these Chinese immigrants (or wannabes in this case) do contribute to the society. However, their logic is fundamentally flawed. Many rich Chinese today got their wealth very quickly and their morality hasn't caught up with the rest of world. In Canada we believe people are equal, but yet because rich people in China gets away doing whatever they want, they should be treated like that in Canada too. :fuckthatshit:

Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 8556621)

This generates a major difference in value between them and Canadians. And the hate (as shown in many of these threads) between locals vs. newly immigrants emerged from those differences.

The fact is, these immigrants need to grow the fuck up and bring their sense of value to the same standard before immigrating to Canada. In Canada, we don't give special treatment if a person is rich (arguably, but you get the point). And a rich shouldn't expect to be treated any differently.

Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 8556621)

I came from a family that made it to the 1% during my mid-late teen... and has grown further since. But I have always been taught to RESPECT others no matter what is their financial/social status. And my parents never had the intention to pass on their wealth to us (me+brother) but instead teach us how to create our own.

Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 8556621)

My parents, given their financial power, should be VIP everywhere they go. But they live a very modest life, cook their own meals, clean their own house and line up to pay for bills and shit. Sure they dodge their taxes like crazy (all legal, but to a point that I find it questionable, morally speaking. Even when they pay high6/low7figures in taxes), but still... I respect my parents for their humbleness. But these Chinese immigrants feel because they are rich, they should be "VIP".

I think they should take a page from my dad: "Respect others, and they will respect you in return."

Originally Posted by E-SPEC (Post 8556955)

Replicating someone's username is beyond pathetic, talk about wanting to suck someones dick!

Originally Posted by iEatClams (Post 8556982)

I just find it funny that I have rich swiss friends (well their parents are) who live in west vancouver and are rich and powerful because their parments sit on boards and are execs etc. But they don't have any of the annoying shiet habits of the mainlanders. They are kind, generous people who have better manners and respect for morals. Maybe that's why they are more welcomed to our country than the mainlanders and their lack of morals and ethics. And seriously if you come into another country acting all high and mighty and not respecting their customs, of course they gonna hate on you.

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8557012)

Let's give all the rich even more power!
Hey you kill someone? No worries nothing will to you coz you are rich!
Hey your son rape this friend? Not to worry nothing will happen coz you are rich!
Hey your factory just populated the Fraser river with deathly chemicals and nuclear waste. Now all the species in the river is dead and also no one can drink or even swim in it. But nothing will happy to you coz you are rich!

Even back in ancient chinese there is a saying "Even if the king broke the law he is trail as a normal citizen" So why do the rich Chinese they just coz they are rich they are above all moral value and above the law? Is it coz they are born asshole or is it coz the Chinese Gov don't care shit what they do.

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8556995)

Isn't all that pretty common in China?

Originally Posted by Marco.911 (Post 8557098)

Rich people would probably argue that it it better for them to have money than someone that's poor. They would argue that their money will be used to create jobs, raise the overall standard of living, and generate economic stimulus.

Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8557160)

This isn't China.

Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma (Post 8557185)

i doubt any of you even seen that many bad things. just a single incident and then you read it about newspapers and other people talking about it and you just all jump on the bandwagon.

Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma (Post 8557185)

i can think of so many worse things you guys should be bitching about.

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8557183)

You tell me if you moved to a foreign country you would know all the customs of that country?

Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8557237)

You don't have to know them all, but you have to fucking try. At the minimum look at the people around you and be at least as polite as they are.

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8557264)

Hey, the Chinese are just trying to act like white people. Walk into a place, think think own it, and plant a flag. At least the Chinese don't go around talking about some dead guy named Jebus.

Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma (Post 8557265)

surprise surprise, your western ideologies aren't global!!! OMG!!! WHO WOULDA EVER THOUGHT THAT?!

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8557476)

Sorry but that behaviour isn't acceptable anywhere outside your little circle or in your head. It's not about "western ideologies" it's about knowing how to function properly in a civilized society. That includes the west as well as the east and everywhere in between.