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Marco911 10-16-2014 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8544464)
:facepalm:

It doesn't matter what accuracy it's measured to, 14s is only 3.2% (or 3.20000000% if that helps you) and no matter how you cut it that is not a significant amount of difference. Especially when you're paying 160% (or 160.00000000%) more for that 3.2%.

If you are worried about that 3.2% though, the Corvette C6 Z06 posted a 7:22.68, a gap of more than 15s over the 911 at only 68% of the cost, and it's definitely a "purebred" car, not one built up from a "normal" car (since that seems to concern you so much).
Wow, you guys don't know much about motor sports do you? Every millisecond counts. A 14 second difference is a trouncing. As far as the Z06, it's a cool race car but still not the refined precise machine that is the 911. The professionals who work in the automotive world know this. 2 of the top gear presenters have 911s as their personal car.

dared3vil0 10-16-2014 07:21 PM
^ So if a 14 second difference is a trouncing, i guess that Z06 walked the fuck over that 911 eh?

jasonturbo 10-16-2014 07:40 PM
This purpose of this thread was to discuss how high performance cars are difficult to enjoy on the street, not to discuss how high performance cars perform on a race track...

Clearly I did not title this thread correctly, and my OP was off topic, please excuse my ignorance.

PS: I like the fucking "school bus" Porsche commercial.

Marco911 10-16-2014 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dared3vil0 (Post 8544545)
^ So if a 14 second difference is a trouncing, i guess that Z06 walked the fuck over that 911 eh?
Yeah the Z06 performs better on the track than regular Carreras due primarily to a better hp/weight ratio but 911s are still better driver's cars.

hud 91gt 10-16-2014 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Marco911 (Post 8544620)
Yeah the Z06 performs better on the track than regular Carreras due primarily to a better hp/weight ratio but 911s are still better driver's cars.
Hmmm… Isn't that why Carrera's are faster then Caymans? If your going to argue, don't contradict yourself. Much to learn young troll.

jasonturbo 10-16-2014 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Marco911 (Post 8544620)
...but 911s are still better driver's cars.
Strange, I could swear you were just dismissing the arguments of others who elected to provide opinions rather than "facts"... I suppose opinions in line with your thinking are basically facts in Marcoland?

... Having said that, I do agree with your opinion in this matter, 911>Vette for driving experience.

noclue 10-16-2014 09:36 PM
Marco911 doesn't have enough hair on his back or drink budweisers to fathom driving a corvette.

911 is the complete package, have you seen a C6 corvette interior?

I approve of the C7 however.

JDął 10-16-2014 09:48 PM
This thread reminds me of the last time Marco911 got his ass handed to him: http://www.revscene.net/forums/63519...st-car-rs.html

Que RangeRover's cleavage.....

By the way Marco your beloved 911 got absolutely destroyed at the Nurburgring, a track in Porsche's own backyard, by a cheap CHEVY!?!?

http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/im...gt1ro2_500.gif

Marco911 10-16-2014 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hud 91gt (Post 8544623)
Hmmm… Isn't that why Carrera's are faster then Caymans? If your going to argue, don't contradict yourself. Much to learn young troll.
Carreras are faster than Caymans and arguably better driver's cars too. How am I a troll? Unlike Z3Guy et al, I actually reference my points from credible sources. Z3Guy makes up his own reality such as "an amateur can extract more performance out of an M3 than a 997."

Marco911 10-16-2014 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonturbo (Post 8544624)
Strange, I could swear you were just dismissing the arguments of others who elected to provide opinions rather than "facts"... I suppose opinions in line with your thinking are basically facts in Marcoland?

... Having said that, I do agree with your opinion in this matter, 911>Vette for driving experience.
If my opinion is supported by professional reviewers and statistics, then it is likely worth a lot more than someone who pulls opinions out of their ass (Z3Guy) and is unable to back it up when asked to show references.

Marco911 10-16-2014 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JDął (Post 8544634)
This thread reminds me of the last time Marco911 got his ass handed to him: http://www.revscene.net/forums/63519...st-car-rs.html

Que RangeRover's cleavage.....
I have never got "my ass handed to me."

If you disagree with me, I am right and you are wrong.

Quote:
By the way Marco your beloved 911 got absolutely destroyed at the Nurburgring, a track in Porsche's own backyard, by a cheap CHEVY!?!?

http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/im...gt1ro2_500.gif
Yes, it did. The Z06 is much more purpose-built for quick lap times than a 911, which can be a civilised daily driver but still offers the awesome communicative feeling of a sports car. The track focussed 911 GT2 RS did get a quicker time than a Z06. :)

Marco911 10-16-2014 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by noclue (Post 8544627)
Marco911 doesn't have enough hair on his back or drink budweisers to fathom driving a corvette.
Wow, I feel like you really know me! :h5:

multicartual 10-16-2014 11:22 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_SWF9i3Vzpa...the+bullet.gif

underscore 10-17-2014 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Marco911 (Post 8544620)
Yeah the Z06 performs better on the track than regular Carreras due primarily to a better hp/weight ratio but 911s are still better driver's cars.
So now that something beat the 911 by a larger margin than the 911 beat the M4, 'ring times are no longer relevant to you. Right.

Marco911 10-17-2014 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8544741)
So now that something beat the 911 by a larger margin than the 911 beat the M4, 'ring times are no longer relevant to you. Right.
Well the M3/M4 doesn't have any redeeming qualities over the 911 does it? And I never said he lap times were irrelevant, I clearly stated the Z06 was faster.

68style 10-17-2014 07:38 AM
All you guys are goons, why even compare these cars? A M3/M4 costs like 60% what the lowest level 911 does... I bloody well hope for Porsche's sake the 911 is a bit quicker...

Likewise a GT2 costs more than twice what a Z06 does... derp.

Magazine racers.

sdubfid 10-17-2014 10:12 AM
MARCO...

westopher 10-17-2014 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8544750)
All you guys are goons, why even compare these cars?
Well it started out because Marco insulted Jason, and many people by saying he went from piece of shit rice burners to the pinnacle of automotive engineering, and now its just funny watching him type circles around himself about his love for fingerless driving gloves and really shallow wrinkly overpriced porsche hats, with the sliding belt buckle type adjustment. You know the ones I'm talking about.

Gucci Mane 10-17-2014 10:34 AM
most of you have it so twisted. the 911 isnt even a sports car. you cant compare it to sports cars when its a luxury cruiser, minivan and a race car all rolled into one.

but gt3 is race car only. cause gt3

white rocket 10-17-2014 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sdubfid (Post 8544807)
MARCO...
POLO

underscore 10-17-2014 11:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8544750)
All you guys are goons, why even compare these cars? A M3/M4 costs like 60% what the lowest level 911 does... I bloody well hope for Porsche's sake the 911 is a bit quicker...

Likewise a GT2 costs more than twice what a Z06 does... derp.

Magazine racers.
Because that's the comparison Marco made, and the Porsche isn't significantly quicker for the massive price difference. Don't blame us for pointing out the weak points in someones else's argument.

underscore 10-17-2014 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 8544814)
Well it started out because Marco insulted Jason, and many people by saying he went from piece of shit rice burners to the pinnacle of automotive engineering, and now its just funny watching him type circles around himself about his love for fingerless driving gloves and really shallow wrinkly overpriced porsche hats, with the sliding belt buckle type adjustment. You know the ones I'm talking about.
Someone around here has a sig quote about Marco that's priceless, can anyone find it?

Marco911 10-18-2014 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8544830)
Because that's the comparison Marco made, and the Porsche isn't significantly quicker for the massive price difference. Don't blame us for pointing out the weak points in someones else's argument.
14 seconds on the Nurburgring in a Porsche with less hp than the M3 is a significant difference.

The M3 is slower not because it's cheaper with 'less content' but because of its compromised family car origins.

The 911 probably has less material content in it than the BMW.

Speed2K 10-18-2014 10:34 AM
Lol, magazine racing, I think some of you have taken shitty rentals but how many people on here have actually taken a 911, BMW M car, Cayman, Corvette, etc... on to the ring? :fuckthatshit:

Was the 14 seconds from different days? If so, you can't compare. One way to settle this, y'all should take your cars to the next track day! :awwyeah:

Marco911 vs ... :joy:

sekin67835 10-18-2014 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Marco911 (Post 8545213)
14 seconds on the Nurburgring in a Porsche with less hp than the M3 is a significant difference.

The M3 is slower not because it's cheaper with 'less content' but because of its compromised family car origins.

The 911 probably has less material content in it than the BMW.
Lol dude if you're talking about heritage, the first porsche was built from a fucking beattle.


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