Just wanted to throw a bit of input in this thread, people should really start investing in good all seasons or winters. Seen countless people sliding their way through the streets in my neighborhood, including a few subies surprisingly :/ Hasn't even started snowing yet but the roads are getting icy. I have Hankook winter tires with like 30% or a little bit less on the Mazda, trying to get through the season safely without driving it too much other than to and from work and it hasn't slipped on me yet on a fwd. New DWS all seasons on my e92 awd and it's also very grippy for regular driving and even slightly faster driving when I tried it out. Surprised at the amount of people that are trying to go around with what seems to be summers or shitty all seasons, an accident is going to happen sooner or later.

All-seasons? Don't you mean No-seasons?

AWD and 4WD don't do fuck all if you have crap tires. Trucks and Subies seem to be in the ditch more than anything else going to the ski hill every weekend because of the knobs who buy them thinking the drivetrain makes any sort of difference.

AWD doesn't help stopping or cornering...

^^ I can vouch, especially if it's the "Smart AWD" system that is actually only 2WD until you lose traction (ie. until it's too late to matter) and the AWD system kicks in.

It barely helped at all on my Audi A4. Snowtires with the AWD system though, was glorious.

It helps for not getting stuck going from a stop, that's about it I think. When I see people slipping down the streets of my neighborhood it's from a stop. They go like a foot then slip, stop, go another foot while slipping, stop, repeat until they're out of the street or crash into a trash can. Although my e92 has some hill assist thing that apparently has saved lives when you're slipping down a hill under 40km/h. Haven't tried it myself, something to do with braking and other stuff to save you when you lose traction going down a hill?

I was just at a job site up in northern Alberta and saw a brand new Mustang GT parked in amongst all the trucks, which just confirms that tires > drivetrain.

I've said it before, but i'm not a salesman so no ones believes me.....


My 3 series with factory LSD and snow tires blew my old YJ with snowflake rated all seasons out of the water for nasty weather traction. When the 3 series started to become a large snow plow in super deep snow was the only time the Jeep "may" have out performed it.

Heated seats and mirrors also made for a much for enjoyable Northern Manitoba vehicle, and performed just as well for a couple winters in Ottawa.

I'm a huge advocate of winter tires, but honestly in vancouver you don't need them. But for god's sake, please make sure your all season's have some decent tread depth. We get rained on enough to drown a fish.

However, when you have tires AND drivetrain... :megusta:


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Got this installed over the weekend.

I'll just leave these here for the unbelievers:

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And the kinds of roads the car was driven on:

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Can anyone recommend a place for winter tires storage/changes? (have wheels/tire set, so no need to mount tires)

I no longer have the tools and space for a quick swap. I know BJ Autohaus used to do it, but not anymore.

I remember Burrard Acura sending me an ad once trying sell their winter tires and offered free tire storage so maybe try the place you bought your tires from?

Otherwise, maybe try this site? (note, I haven't tried them before so I have no idea how they are)

Tire Hotel | Let Us Take Your Tire Storage Headaches Away

I belive Kal Tires store them for you. But not sure of pricing.

^ I saw an ad for like 85 bucks iirc.

Got it done at 1010tire for 100+tax. :)

Thanks for all the input though.

so how about those all weather tires? any good?

Really happy with the X-Ice3. Went up Cypress and Seymour a few times and had zero issues.

http://i.imgur.com/0Lpk9qe.jpg

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Kia Richmond is a participating tire hotel dealer

Why don't you guys just buy those All-Weather tires they advertising in those KAL-Tire commercials and be done with it? I don't see any justifications for buying a set of "winter tires" for living in the Lower Mainland, except for those in other parts of BC where it actually snows.

And run them year round?

Anything with a mountain snow flake is going to suck ass in hot weather...

First off, this is the winter tire for grown ups thread so maybe do a bit of research before you sprout off your uninformed opinion. Second, it's not 1972 anymore. Winter tires are not solely about snow traction. They're about maximum grip at operating temperatures below X degrees. Third, with a proper set of winter tires you can easily go up in the mountains and enjoy the world class recreational activities people travel from all over the globe to enjoy around this time of the year.

"All-seasons" as they're marketed as, suck at everything. Shit traction in good weather, shit traction in the bad. Anyone that actually cares about performance will have a high performance summer set already so why would they choose an all season.

Go be a cunt somewhere else. Maybe try reading from time to time. It might help with your retard-syndrome.

Why are you using words like "cunt" from just a tire discussion thread? Are you drunk or on drugs or something? Sorry to have annoyed you so badly to call me a retard, is that they way you treat your next door neighbors or anybody else you meet in real life like too?! Your sort of a poor excuse for a human being. You could have just ignored what I said or said it nicely instead. Anyways, you never really gave your opinion on the newer "all-weather" tire trend, what do you think of those, if you can put the crack pipe or joint down for a second or two!

Hmm...

Bitches about people calling him names, calls poster a druggie in the reply.

Do as I say, not as I do eh?

You know what, you not friendly at all or even here to help people with car questions or inquiries about modifications. You see something you don't like, you jump on it and make the person look retarded for your own self gratification. Its not even worth my time to try to reason with you or your friend above who has the same mentality then you. Going to waste people's time going back and forth fighting like back in highschool and being real immature about everything. You troll revscene looking for a post you don't like, then want to start a fight. For what? Are you really that bored at your computer?

I'm not posting anymore after this, you can keep going on forever or post victory for all I care.