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multicartual 11-27-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Presto (Post 8561719)
We should isolate multicartural and diesel_test to their own thread where they can circle-jerk each other with their fantasies of living the dream.


Uhh... I have lived a very, very dynamic and interesting life. Maybe you should start an internet business so you can have free time to pursue your hobbies and interests while pulling in hundreds of dollars per day with only a few hours of work

melloman 11-27-2014 09:26 AM

BC has a problem. Let's just face it.

With the huge amount of inflation we deal with in the GVRD, nobody can afford to live their same lifestyle. People are cutting back on everything and that causes a reaction in prices of supply/demand.

Baby boomers who should have retired 5 years ago, are still working. Taking away positions from recent graduates from universities. (I know way more then 2 handfuls of my parents friends who are getting paid their pensions, and still "consulting" on the side)
The other issue is experience. Everybody who is a recent grad knows, any and every company out there doesn't want a junior. They want someone with experience. Thus the openings for juniors (recent grads) are next to none, leaving them to work the retail/mcjob's that are available.

Now education: I can't blame our education system for anything. The system has gone along with the times, it has accounted for the technology boom, and courses/programs were made to follow this trend.
The issue is the students. I have so many friends who just wanted to party and have fun, so they took the easiest programs you can take; sociology, psychology, history, liberal arts. Ofcourse you're going to find NOTHING here. We are in an age of technology and construction, that's the building boom. These friends all have now gotten their 4 year degrees, and are now in BCIT, Kwantlen, VCC, getting certificates/diplomas directly related to the building boom. They just ended up wasting 4 years of their life and are learning the hard way.

Unfortunately the GVRD is right now fucked. And it seems with a high cost of living, nothing will change. The driven will prevail, and the weak will fail. I just hope I can stay ahead of the curve.

multicartual 11-27-2014 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 8561716)
Medical


I can see why the volunteer experience helped, for sure!


There are a lot of people who can't really volunteer or do shit when every month making rent comes down to squeezing by with a few dollars on the 1st


Talk to the bar backs in this city and find out how they survive, it might shock you. Down in the bedbug infested DTES, 200 sq ft shitholes rent out for $775 a month and they're always full of young people wanting to live the dream!

SumAznGuy 11-27-2014 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GLOW (Post 8561741)
wait so is it under 5'7" or 5'7" and under? I need to know if i'm a peasant that needs pity.

Good thing I am 5'7 1/2" so I am above the threshold. :suspicious:

Godzira 11-27-2014 09:35 AM

Does that apply to girls as well? if so im fucked everyone pity me.

multicartual 11-27-2014 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by melloman (Post 8561749)
Unfortunately the GVRD is right now fucked. And it seems with a high cost of living, nothing will change. The driven will prevail, and the weak will fail. I just hope I can stay ahead of the curve.


People laugh at me when I say 10k a month does not go very far anymore


The key to modern life is to not get sucked into competition with others, ignore what the next guy is up to. Buy your clothes on aliexpress, visit a u-brew and make your own beer and cider, don't feel pressured to socialize with people happy to spend $8 on a beer then complain they're broke, and don't feel the need to be generous with others. Drive an older car! One of the guys that recently moved out of my building was paying $2500 a month for his loft and $1500 for a brand new Audi. He was in CrossFit at $300 a month and spent $100-200 every few nights trying to date hot 20 year olds. I believe he said he made $150,000 last year and was completely flat broke. Said he was moving back to Alberta where his lifestyle in Calgary would be half the cost of what he pays here. I suggested to just buy some weights and a chin up bar, ditch the new audi, and then move to a cheaper place in Vancouver and he just sort of stared at me like I was insane for suggesting to downsize his lifestyle.

It can be tough when girls are one of our society's metrics for success, with the status items you own or the title you have, women reward you with vagina.(Jian Ghomeshi would have never got away with slapping around women and having so much rough sex with so many girls if he were a taxi driver rather than a Canadian celebrity on one of the CBC's most popular programs.)

multicartual 11-27-2014 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Godzira (Post 8561754)
Does that apply to girls as well? if so im fucked everyone pity me.


Girls just need to follow this:

1. Get skinny
2. Get big boobs
3. Dress hot

Job opportunities everywhere and easy to find guys to dupe into paying for everything you want

Godzira 11-27-2014 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by multicartual (Post 8561758)
Girls just need to follow this:

1. Get skinny
2. Get big boobs
3. Dress hot

Job opportunities everywhere...

this is actually the first and probably only time i'll ever agree with you.
:fullofwin:

Sid Vicious 11-27-2014 10:25 AM

why not split the difference at 12-13, i think most people would agree with that

Yodamaster 11-27-2014 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8560845)
Does somone who cant even get a mcdonalds order right deserve the same $15 a guy digging trenches all day long get? i'd say no.

Both are grunt jobs, I can dig a trench all day long, doesn't mean that I deserve $15/hr. Working your ass off means nothing unlesss you are in a field that requires absolute skill.

I agree that raising the minimum wage will just increase the cost of goods, yielding nothing of value.

GLOW 11-27-2014 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by multicartual (Post 8561758)
Girls just need to follow this:

1. Get skinny
2. Get big boobs
3. Dress hot

Job opportunities everywhere and easy to find guys to dupe into paying for everything you want

you copy/pasted that for a wanted ad for cactus club waitress :troll:

multicartual 11-27-2014 12:00 PM

It is sexist that you can't find fat and unattractive waitresses at Cactus Club, Earls, etc etc

Godzira 11-27-2014 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by multicartual (Post 8561797)
It is sexist that you can't find fat and unattractive waitresses at Cactus Club, Earls, etc etc

that's not sexist. they only hire good looking guys too

multicartual 11-27-2014 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzira (Post 8561799)
that's not sexist. they only hire good looking guys too


Sounds pretty appearist to me, time for protest!

Godzira 11-27-2014 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by multicartual (Post 8561801)
Sounds pretty appearist to me, time for protest!

only ugly people would protest.

Soundy 11-27-2014 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzira (Post 8560844)
why wouldn't it raise wages for trades and salary workers? it has to start somewhere

Late to the game here but IDGAF.

Why? Because everyfuckingone else* gets paid according to their skill, experience, and/or overall value to the employer. If a trade grunt is only WORTH $15/hr., he's not going to start making $20 just because all the burger slingers are suddenly making as much as he is.

*except unions where your pay is based strictly on scale and seniority, but that's a whole other rant

Godzira 11-27-2014 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 8561821)
Late to the game here but IDGAF.

Why? Because everyfuckingone else* gets paid according to their skill, experience, and/or overall value to the employer. If a trade grunt is only WORTH $15/hr., he's not going to start making $20 just because all the burger slingers are suddenly making as much as he is.

*except unions where your pay is based strictly on scale and seniority, but that's a whole other rant

http://makeameme.org/media/created/fact-4l403f.jpg

Manic! 11-27-2014 01:26 PM

B.C. has a huge problem, finding reliable people willing to work for minimum wage.

Manic! 11-27-2014 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 8561821)
Late to the game here but IDGAF.

Why? Because everyfuckingone else* gets paid according to their skill, experience, and/or overall value to the employer. If a trade grunt is only WORTH $15/hr., he's not going to start making $20 just because all the burger slingers are suddenly making as much as he is.

*except unions where your pay is based strictly on scale and seniority, but that's a whole other rant

It might when people in the trades decide to flip burgers instead.

Soundy 11-27-2014 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8561841)
B.C. has a huge problem, finding reliable CITIZENS willing to work for minimum wage.

Fixed that for you.

Lomac 11-27-2014 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8561844)
It might when people in the trades decide to flip burgers instead.

Except when you're in a trade, the pay difference between junior apprentice and everything above it is far greater than you'd ever see in a McJob/retail position, outside of supervisor/manager roles. Sure, starting out you may make roughly the same, but in two to five years, the difference will more than make up for that initial pay.

Great68 11-27-2014 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Yodamaster (Post 8561776)
Both are grunt jobs, I can dig a trench all day long, doesn't mean that I deserve $15/hr. Working your ass off means nothing unlesss you are in a field that requires absolute skill.

I agree that raising the minimum wage will just increase the cost of goods, yielding nothing of value.

Hah

I bet that 80% of the people here would not have the physical stamina to dig a trench all day. I bet most would pussy out after about an hour.

Physical skill & ability is still skill.

multicartual 11-27-2014 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 8561855)
Hah

I bet that 80% of the people here would not have the physical stamina to dig a trench all day. I bet most would pussy out after about an hour.

Physical skill & ability is still skill.


Heh, my last woman, I raked her leaves for her on her large property for like 2 hours each time. What a work out!!!

Who needs CrossFit? RakeFit

Great68 11-27-2014 01:58 PM

I shovelled out seven 3/4 ton pickup loads of dirt from my property by hand, and shoveled the same amount of gravel back in over the course of a few weekends.

Everything ached.

I couldn't do that for a living...

freakshow 11-27-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Yodamaster (Post 8561776)
Both are grunt jobs, I can dig a trench all day long, doesn't mean that I deserve $15/hr. Working your ass off means nothing unlesss you are in a field that requires absolute skill.

This is completely incorrect. Working harder does demand more pay, if for nothing else, simply because of supply and demand. If there are two jobs that require the same mental skill, but one is hugely demanding on the body, an easy majority of people will choose the less demanding one if they pay the same. So hard, physical labour jobs do deserve more pay according to what the market bares.


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