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Anyone have experience with Multilevel Marketing (MLM)
Long story short, I've been approached by two people over the last couple of months. One is an older friend and the other is a former co-worker. Neither know each and the products are completely different. Both are trying to bring me into the MLM / Direct Sales world.
Funny thing is, both spent more time talking about the MLM lifestyle rather than the product they are selling. Both seemed enamoured with the top earners as opposed to drawing out the initial steps required for early success.
I had to research this on my own so I could understand what they were babbling about.
Anyone ever been in the MLM world or know someone who has? Get rich quick shit or legit if you have the drive for it?
Snake oil, nothing more... there's no shortcut to getting rich, no offence to your friends but they all seem to be under the influence of some Kool-Aid. Unless they can provide you with actual info about how much they make and direct steps into following their footsteps, I'd stay away.
shits bullshit! If all your friends are doing is talking about the lifestyle and how rich you can get without explainning how and what product it is, well then you know its all bullshit!
MLM this is how you lose friends and family members thats what the slogan should be!
The sad thing is when my friends were talking to me about it, I didn't really recognize them. It felt like they were reading off cue cards in their head that were presumably implanted there by whomever.
At the same time I ask myself "Do you want me in this for MY gain or YOUR gain?" I know recruitment is huge in the MLM world so that could be part of it.
Mary Kay for example......there are a select few who have done really well but its a LOT of work to get to the top and be making money and the level of work needed to stay there is more with each consultant you bring on.
Everyone is sucked in with promises of big $$ and rewards, but less than 10% are retained passed there first year with the company.
If you work the system like the women who work it well you will see you don't really make a lot for the amount of time invested and to do well you need to invest a lot of money from the get go.
Anytime Ive heard someone talk to me about the MLM thing they are into, they always talk about keywords like what I could make, what the top guys make, etc. Never once have I heard anyone talk about what THEY make, or the steps needed to get there. Because no one actually does it for the money. They do it for the dream of one day making the money.
Legit if you have the drive for it, and depends on what company. In the end it's just a high pressure sales job.
If it's anything where you have to actually buy the product from the company to then resell then that's more sketch.
Whereas there are companies where it's just referral selling, which is a fairly standard sales job. The person who referred you gets commission from your sales, and the people you refer you get commission for their sales.
Commissions are typically paid out by the company and not actually out of your pocket.
Disclosure: my dad is a Primerica rep. Most of his commissions come from his clients through mutual fund or insurance; no different than the financial advisors at the bank. Only difference separating him from a bank job is it's far more independent and there is no safety net.
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It's nothing more then a Ponzi scheme I suppose it could be profitable if you can find enough suckers but lets be real they are never selling the product it's all about getting as many people signed up as possible and putting in their initial investment to build the pyramid.
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Its all bs. My opinion of anyone who gets into MLM schemes is that they are usually either financially desperate, lack education, gullible, scam artist or lazy fucks who are always looking for the easy way out/get rich quick schemes, or all of the above.
You should slap or knock some sense into your friends who approached you with that crap, seriously
Here is an idiot who tried to pitch a MLM/Pyramid scam on Dragons Den
I was a part of Amway about 15 years ago, went to a bunch of the big shows... a big local player back in the day was Fenton Eng I believe was his name.
It was a complete cult! When they had this big event at the PNE, these messiah-like figures were paraded on stage after montages of their lavish lifestyles were projected on a big screen behind them. It was surreal! Tickets for this event were over $100 and this was in like 1997 or some shit!!!
A few people I knew were making a few bucks doing it, the most successful guy I knew had 70 family members all in his downline working for him to move Amway cleaning products and all this other shit he kept in the back of his truck.
My mother is doing some MLM thing during her spare time.
I'm against MLM, but it works for her - she doesn't spend a considerable amount of time doing anything, but her cheques are legit $2k a month at her current state (and she's only been at it for 3 months?)
My mother is doing some MLM thing during her spare time.
I'm against MLM, but it works for her - she doesn't spend a considerable amount of time doing anything, but her cheques are legit $2k a month at her current state (and she's only been at it for 3 months?)
Single mom works for google in part-time and made $7,371 a month from Google
Anyone ever been in the MLM world or know someone who has? Get rich quick shit or legit if you have the drive for it?
More like get rich slowly if you're willing to fuck over everyone you've ever known. Two friends of mine got involved with a MLM investment company, one is still doing it and they pitch the most retarded money making strategies I've ever heard of. After ~2 years he's still working his other job so I doubt he started making "$100k a year after six months" (what a convenient number they picked lol).
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My mother is doing some MLM thing during her spare time.
I'm against MLM, but it works for her - she doesn't spend a considerable amount of time doing anything, but her cheques are legit $2k a month at her current state (and she's only been at it for 3 months?)
Lying to friends about how they can make "tons of money" and having people talk about your back on making 2k a month? Doesn't sound too good of a trade-off.
I was a part of Amway about 15 years ago, went to a bunch of the big shows... a big local player back in the day was Fenton Eng I believe was his name.
It was a complete cult! When they had this big event at the PNE, these messiah-like figures were paraded on stage after montages of their lavish lifestyles were projected on a big screen behind them. It was surreal! Tickets for this event were over $100 and this was in like 1997 or some shit!!!
A few people I knew were making a few bucks doing it, the most successful guy I knew had 70 family members all in his downline working for him to move Amway cleaning products and all this other shit he kept in the back of his truck.
The business attracted a lot, A LOT of hot women!
Where they handing out fake prop money or where they handing out large novelty checks?
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Where they handing out fake prop money or where they handing out large novelty checks?
No, but the videos were over the top.
This one old couple that looked like Colonel Sanders and his old ass wife, their video on the screen had an enormous estate that looked more like a resort or palace than a house. Golden dishes and goblets in their dining hall, Rolls Royce, horse ranch, private jet, yachts, fuck you name it.
The whole thing was extremely cult-like. Everyone seemed so fake it was beyond anything I had ever experienced before. Actually... kind of reminded me of porn conventions I went to later in life! Super fucked up!
some kid i knew from high school's been in one for like 5 years. kept insisting i sign up with his group. claiming he makes the big bucks and such. he keeps posting cult-like photos of their seminars and "leaders" all over facebook.
seem like just a bunch a sheep blindly following a herder with no interest in keeping their friends or family.
Lol this dude I haven't spoken in years call me out of no where offering me "a job I'd be perfect at"
so I ask him what it is and he's all like "let's meet up for coffee and I'll explain"
I ask him to tell me on the phone and he won't but I can make big bucks from it
Well bye
Maybe it's just me but I find it super disrespectful when people try to recruit me into these things
Lol this dude I haven't spoken in years call me out of no where offering me "a job I'd be perfect at"
so I ask him what it is and he's all like "let's meet up for coffee and I'll explain"
I ask him to tell me on the phone and he won't but I can make big bucks from it
Well bye
Maybe it's just me but I find it super disrespectful when people try to recruit me into these things
I don't have any friends that have been stupid enough to join any of these but if I did and they tried to recruit me they wouldn't get much word in between me laughing at them and telling them how stupid they are for signing up themselves.
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friend of mine back in college asked me to go with him to a "job fair" and told me that he knew a few of the "employers" who were going to be "scouting" that night and told me to dress up nicely... we were pretty good friends in school and our program was almost over so I thought it would be beneficial if he could hook me up
got home after school, put on a nice shirt and tie, had to transit 1hr to get there in pouring rain... finally got there and immediately got a super fishy impression of the people around me and the things they were talking about.. fast forward to the next 10 minutes everyone had to take a seat as the "presentation" started on the white board and within the next 2 minutes I stood up and stormed out sitting somewhere in the front row and the whole room was quiet as everyone watched me walked out... friend followed me outside and he acted all stupid and asked me what the problem was and I bitched him out about lying about a job fair and trying to recruit me into this pyramid BS and wasting my fucking time
needless to say i never hanged out with him anymore outside of school and things became awkward in school... the sad thing was he did this to a few other people after me and all those guys didn't want to be his friend anymore afterwards either
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