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godwin 03-24-2015 05:23 AM

It is a plebicite.. basically a whole population polling. The result is not legally binding. They can still go with the original plan.

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Originally Posted by tool001 (Post 8614246)
I wonder if it comes down to a "no". How will they get more funding, just because they want and can . Property taxes...more fuel surcharge...by taxing how much you drive...!?


Mr.HappySilp 03-24-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by godwin (Post 8614290)
It is a plebicite.. basically a whole population polling. The result is not legally binding. They can still go with the original plan.

However if the mayor decided to increase tax even if the majority people voted no, they can kiss their elections good bye. Just the negativity from it would cost them to resign.

Gh0stRider 03-24-2015 11:31 PM

they need money to fix their fucked up buses


7seven 03-25-2015 06:18 AM

Finally got voting package yesterday, voted NO right away and dropped it off in mail this morning on way into office.

TOPEC 03-25-2015 06:50 PM

theres 5 registered voters at my address, i only recieved 2 vote packages

hmmmm........:suspicious:

BBMme 03-26-2015 11:04 AM

I voted no, when I do take the bus (once a week) I think it's okay, it's not great, but it's does the job. The traffic on the Massey tunnel during rush hour, now that's a different story.

smoothie. 03-26-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Gh0stRider (Post 8614796)
they need money to fix their fucked up buses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkph...ature=youtu.be

they can get it from within their organization

murd0c 03-26-2015 11:15 AM

received mine as well and will be filling it out no and dropping it off in a couple days. I so hope people actually vote rather then doing nothing which seems to happen most of the time.

keifun 03-26-2015 12:32 PM

Got my package yesterday. Voted NO and quickly dropped it into the mailbox on the corner of my place.

Hope people will vote. Saw a report on the news that a lot of people still don't know about this plebiscite that is going on; not sure if they're just completely clueless or what.

7seven 03-26-2015 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by keifun (Post 8615472)
Got my package yesterday. Voted NO and quickly dropped it into the mailbox on the corner of my place.

Hope people will vote. Saw a report on the news that a lot of people still don't know about this plebiscite that is going on; no sure if they're just completely clueless or what.

CTV news did a story on how some people in condo buildings have been seeing the voting packages tossed into the junk mail recycle bins as seems a number of people are thinking its junk mail :facepalm:

GLOW 03-26-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TOPEC (Post 8615154)
theres 5 registered voters at my address, i only recieved 2 vote packages

hmmmm........:suspicious:

same boat, 1 of 5 arrived so far.

Anjew 03-26-2015 02:17 PM

so if we vote yes, how do we know money raised from this will go towards these proposals the mayors are pushing?

Gululu 03-26-2015 03:11 PM

I just voted Yes. now just got to find a mailbox :toot:

flagella 03-26-2015 03:41 PM

Meh, yes or no, the money will come from somewhere. TransLink is allowed to raise property taxes by 3% annually, so that will be one of the income stream. Homeowners can't escape and will continue to bear the costs. I'm more for raising the tax so the cost will be born by a larger base.

GLOW 03-26-2015 03:54 PM

what's stopping them from doing both?

EmperorIS 03-26-2015 04:49 PM

I was going to vote no, but i voted yes.

Voting no is not going to change anything at trans-link, but it will delay or even ruin future generations living in Vancouver. I think its irresponsible for us to vote no to city improvements.

If you vote no, and nothing changes, the government and or translink can't be held accountable. But if we vote yes, and things don't change... then we can then hold their feet to the fire.

tiger_handheld 03-26-2015 07:14 PM

^ They are already being irresponsible. How are you or anyone else holding their feet to the fire?

Or better yet, how will you or anyone else hold their feet to the fire in the future?

EmperorIS 03-26-2015 07:25 PM

^
Like anything else in a democratic society, You vote. If the issue is big enough the party that wants your vote will make it their party's agenda.

Who is they? Translink? This no vote doesn't mean you are going to stick it up against Translink. You are only saying no to development and improvements for Vancouver.


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6o4__boi 03-26-2015 07:27 PM

Good luck with holding them accountable

:fuckthatshit:
^ the government's face when anyone "holds their feet to the fire"

EmperorIS 03-26-2015 07:30 PM

^
Lol so instead you rather screw yourself and future generations by saying NO to improving Vancouver?

You all seem to think if this vote goes for YES everyone at Translink is getting a raise and throw a massive party with shark fin soup.

No one is going to suffer more than the residents of Vancouver.

6o4__boi 03-26-2015 07:35 PM

You seem to think yes will make it better.
/end argument.

6o4__boi 03-26-2015 07:39 PM

Idgaf ...I'm on my phone so im too lazy to lecture

I'll say this you're pretty deluded if u think giving them money now will improve things. Oh boo fucking hoo, give me some more solid evidence that lower mainland residents will "suffer" and don't give me bullshit propaganda from the yes side.

But youre entitled to your opinion so meh, have your yes.

Soundy 03-26-2015 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 6o4__boi (Post 8615650)
... give me some more solid evidence that lower mainland residents will "suffer" and don't give me bullshit propaganda from the yes side.

Have you tried taking the Massey Tunnel during rush hour any given day?

Or the Patullo, well... ANY time of any day?

Shit is ancient and overloaded already. DO enlighten us how these things will improve by letting things clunk away the way they are?

bobbinka 03-26-2015 08:51 PM

People need to realize they're not "sticking it" to Translink when they vote no. Translink just won't do those improvements. They're not going to magically cut CEO salaries and find $250 million because you vote no. They do not win or lose, regardless of the outcome. The only winners or losers are going to be us.

How much do you spend per year on things that charge PST? 0.5% is 50 cents per $100 spent.

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Originally Posted by 6o4__boi (Post 8615650)
Idgaf ...I'm on my phone so im too lazy to lecture

I'll say this you're pretty deluded if u think giving them money now will improve things. Oh boo fucking hoo, give me some more solid evidence that lower mainland residents will "suffer" and don't give me bullshit propaganda from the yes side.

When you have time on your computer, please lecture us. Enlighten us with your knowledge and wisdom.

carisear 03-26-2015 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 8615652)
Have you tried taking the Massey Tunnel during rush hour any given day?

Or the Patullo, well... ANY time of any day?

Shit is ancient and overloaded already. DO enlighten us how these things will improve by letting things clunk away the way they are?

Massey tunnel isn't translink jurisdiction. There is a plan to replace it already, that is 100% exclusive of this plebiscite. Things will improve by having the status quo.

Consider yourself enlightened :)

Patullo bridge on the other hand should've been replaced ages ago. That should've been one of the priorities instead of other decisions they made (or had made for them)


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