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As I've said, people are treating it as a plebiscite on Translink's performance. What is alternative? The status quo? The dismantling of Translink? Who's going to run the trains and buses in the meantime? Who's going to do the planning for the next 10 years? The province won't do anything because the whole purpose of creating Translink was to de-politicize transportation decisions. The problem is that Translink was given a shitty governance model with no real creative ways to raise revenues. Quote:
On the other hand, will a "No" vote actually send a message? People are incredibly naive to think that it will. The provincial government will just sit on its ass and say, "The people have spoken. Status quo for now." Quote:
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Re the Queensborough. I don't think it's fair to punish Translink for something that was designed by a different organization decades ago. IMHO, most people are being taken for a ride by the provincial government. The provincial government has avoided its responsibilities for public transit for far too long. It should either be prepared to take full responsibility for transit in the region, via BC Transit, or it should give Translink all of the tools its needs to run a transportation system. |
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Have you ever heard of the saying "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."? Given TransLink's chequered history (and especially on all the blotched projects), do you honestly believe that they can appropriately utilize the 0.5% tax revenues they are raising this time, when they have already failed to do so with all the vastly different ways they already have to drain money from our wallets? Only a fool would think that the outcome would be different this time. Quote:
Will the provincial government pick up on this? I dunno, but if I were a smart politician / political party, I would definitely pick up on it and turn it into an election issue next time. |
Posted this on facebook, but I feel like it could contribute here too. I have friends who work for translink. Not hating on them but they have a very comfortable job. Talk about 30+ an hour, long ass paid vacation, insane government pensions, best dental/medical money, double time on sundays and other benefits I probably dont know about. Don't get me wrong It's probably a very good company to work for and you'll be taken care of but the amount of skill to what you get paid ratio is insane. I'd love to work for them. But knowing how bloated these agencies are there needs to be an audit done. I bet you have jobs where 1 employee can do but they have 3-4 hired including 2 managers. Remember when ICBC was audited last year by a CA firm? They had to fire over 100 managers. MANAGERS. And they claim there is no government waste in these agencies! |
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Just to bring up the benefits again, I'd like to point out that their union bartered agreement contains far less perks and wage incentives than many private sector union agreements. Look up the agreement of my old Union, IATSE669, and then complain Translink bus drivers are overpaid/compensated. ;) I'm all for being critical of Translink when it pertains to something deserving, but picking on the bus drivers for making a decent wage while dealing with some of the worst people humanity has to offer... well, that's the wrong battle to pick. |
The Surrey Board of Trade wants the new Patullo bridge to be toll free and the creation of light rail for Surrey. -more than just about the transit tax. These two items make sense for Surrey. However, is an increase in PST enough extra funding for a toll free Patullo AND light rail? http://http://m.news1130.com/2015/02...w-transit-tax/ |
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Toll Patullo and watch all the Surrey people who don't like tolls move over to Alex Fraser. They already jumped ship off Portmann when the toll came into effect (granted $5.30 each way for an unregistered car is fucked). If we put our PST up by 0.5%, tolls should drop and skytrain should get expanded. But there should definitely not be a NO TOLL on Patullo. The minute that happens, we might as well raise PST again by 0.5% to pay for the Massey Tunnel. Another 0.5% to replace Lions Gate. So on and so forth the greedy ass government and Translink will go. |
The issue people have to remember is that it gives tranlink an idea to increase tax when they need more funding without finding new funding. Sure is only 0.5% now but what about 5 years, 10 years 20years. Do you honestly thing translink will simply stop at a 0.5% increase? I think not. This is pave a very very easy way for them to increase our tax. Also they are simply forcing us to vote yes but simply saying "Vote yes or we won't expand our service" . Why should we be force upon it. We should be given more a simply yes or no choice! |
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But the bigger unnecessary items, are like the Main Street Poodle. And the big empty building Translink is still paying rent on. And the TV screens at each location that show news. If I, as an individual, make some extravagant and useless purchases, but as a whole am still financially responsible enough that those around me don't look at me with scorn, all is well. Such is not the case with Translink. Quote:
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If, on the other hand, I waste all my money on slurpees, and THEN ask my parents for more since I'm poor, they'll surely be a little less willing. Same case here, IMO. Quote:
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You give someone a small amount of responsibility first to see what they can do with it - and it wasn't a measly one, it was big enough. Then, if you see that they do well, you give them more. If not, you fire them. Fuck Translink :troll: *edit: woot, 2000th post haha. |
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http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002..._2_xlarge.jpeg pretty much the only appropriate answer. |
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Your statement above is just kind of tiresome now, I mean it seems as though every public sector employee is burdened heavily with emotional trauma; -Teachers have to deal with rotten little children -Police officers fend for their lives -Healthcare workers and firefighters deal with extremely difficult conditions -secretaries have to sit at a desk all day long, and it causes health problems etc. etc. The list goes on an on, at what point does dealing with this shit just become part of the damn job? I deal with racism, I deal with having punches thrown, i've had a stapler come rocketing at my head, and all I fucking do is work in an office right now. When I was still in the field as a tradesperson the amount of shit those guys go through is ridiculous. When was the last time you went to the washroom at your work, and ended up covered in your own feces, and then forced to work the remainder of the day? Have you ever been hit over the head with a crescent wrench and been told to get the fuck back to work? EDIT: I think the problem here is just that this world has gone soft, too many pussies, not enough hard workers left. |
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And the issues that Lomac et al present are small in comparison to the gross negligence prevalent. If bus driver's are making thrice the minimum wage, I may think wow, but that's the end of that, because I know there are risks and whatnot associated. And the salary of bus drivers, in relation to Translink's budget, is still understandable in the public's perception. But as a good example, Transit police, who arguably do very little, are making ludicrous amounts of money. Transit cops ask for 5.5 per cent wage hike, retroactive pay | CTV Vancouver News It's shit like this. |
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Also, pockets have to be lined which we all know is the real reason. |
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Here are the salaries for REAL police officers. You know, the kind that risk their fucking lives and do REAL police work. Not just hand out fare evasion tickets and drink fucking jugo juice all day. Quote:
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If you are law enforcement, or military, or you pull people out of house fires for a living, or sew back on limbs, then yes you need to be paid appropriately for that. If you drive around the city and occasionally have to deal with an unruly passenger, or homeless guy, I really don't think you can be in the same league. Bus drivers work in a service field, as such they bear the responsibility of dealing with clients, no different then the 15 year old girl who works as a cashier at walmart. |
Whats the requirements to be a bus driver? i'm too lazy to look it up, other than a special class in driver license, what else? I'm in trade which I had to go to school for 2 years paid my tuition and studied my ass off to just get a piece of paper so i could get a job that pays me $30+ hr. To me, anybody who gets paid more than average without any sort of educations or skills are hard for me to swallow. Unless you are a good talker and know how to make a sale or own your own business. I'm not saying bus drivers should be paid at minimum, but not at a comparable hourly rate to many other professions in which require skills or educations |
Why would I vote yes to let a company implement a tax which would end up as a permanent tax and then could only increase in the percentage they deduct while mismanaging the money? If I had more faith in translink about how they spend their money on services I would be more swayed to vote yes but given how they handle their situation and over pay for the little work they do, I don't think it is right for me to give another % of my hard earned income to a company just "burning" my money so to speak. at this point I may as well take the $260 and throw it in the ocean if I were to vote yes. |
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@meme: the jobs you have listed has also been on strike and has asked for wage increase due to their difficulties at work. so there is never a point where its just part of the job. you always ask for more. are you saying you are willing to settle at your wage now and never ask for an increase just simply because its your job to do your job regardless how hard or difficult it gets? if it gets harder, you ask for more. its as simple as that. if not, you can always leave, and i bet the position would be filled pretty damn fast, and probably for a lower salary too. you don't get anything without a fight and thats the sad reality of it. no employer wants to pay more than they have to. |
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BUT I'm a plumber and most of my crew like to work in New Construction because they don't have to deal with bullshit even if it pays less than service. |
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"hey man I don't have money to ride the bus" "ok hop on" There. Their job is safe now. I like what Calgary Transit does. Alot of useless routes in Vancouver still use the big buses even though there is no way in hell they can fill a big bus. So after 5/6pm they use teh shortbuses (which I assume burn way less fuel. ) |
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Trying to take a page out of Robertson's political book? What exactly is Translink going to apologize for? Their incompetence? Their ignorance? Their overloaded overpaid management team? Their lack of leadership? LOL. |
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when buses don't make that revenue, it shows that less people use that route/bus. then that route gets axed or the bus gets reallocated to another route. then the people that rely on that bus gets screwed. you can argue not alot of people do that, but when one person sees another person able to do it, it will spread like wildfire. in short, the smaller route gets cut when the bus drivers just allow free rides. |
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