Originally Posted by sebberry (Post 8616268)

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Until I saw the video you posted, I, nor none of the people who trained us, nor those I had worked with, had ever heard of this term. It was not covered in training, nor was it ever experienced in the actual use of Laser on the job. It was not a technique trained for, nor trained against to prevent errors. The fact that someone some time ago?? in Britain came up with a new term is not scary...it's unusual. BTW...the Brits also use the terms "footpath, dual-carriageway, layby, bonnet, boot, facia, wings etc etc etc. Just because they use them and you dont know the meanings of all of them does not make them scary.

I've seen more hand-held traps set up than those using tripods. In fact I've seen more spotting scopes on tripods than lidar guns, presumably because any sort of distance introduces too much shake.

That is why the tripod is used for Laser. Unless you hold the instrument still so you can get a constant stationary distance between the target and the instrument , it is difficult to get the reading.

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By definition, an estimation isn't accurate.

An estimation is accurate...if it is used as part of a tracking history to confirm a displayed target reading. A visual estimate of between 90-95kmh that is supported by a target speed showing in that same range shows that the estimate was accurate. If the displayed target speed is wildly different from the estimate then either the estimate or the speed were incorrect.



Because they're not accurate?

Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 8616401)

^Clearly zulutango's inability to use the QUOTE tags properly indicates a poor grasp of technology and thus all his laser-based speed tickets should have been thrown out :lawl: :troll:

Originally Posted by sho_bc (Post 8616362)

How thick are you? For the third time, NO.

Originally Posted by - kT (Post 8616499)

lol that was a pretty fucking rude comment to make to somebody asking a question in a thread he started to ask questions

Originally Posted by sho_bc (Post 8616362)

How thick are you? For the third time, NO.

Originally Posted by jpw12 (Post 8615996)

but after consulting with the helpful members here I think I am considering paying the fine early to get a reduced fine or disputing it, and justify a reduced fine in front of a judge because of my current financial status.

Originally Posted by sho_bc (Post 8616645)

Unfortunately for you, it is not an opinion that i gave, but fact. Go sit in on a traffic court session and it'll likely come up at least once. Ask anyone who has gone to court asking for a lower-than-$138 fine amount for speeding, ask any police officer or lawyer who has experience in traffic court. The answer won't change. As i already said, its the provincially mandated minimum fine amount for "simple" speeding. Just like the mandated minimum for an excessive speeding ticket is $368 (41km/hr+ over the posted speed limit).

Originally Posted by jpw12 (Post 8616651)

Note the part I said about my personal financial status. I know enough that the justice system isn't built to heavily penalize low-income earners in proportion to average-income earners, but to provide justice where justice is due.



But why do they have these dispute forms allowing me to "B1 - To request a reduction of the ticketed amount: and/or
B2 - To request time to pay the ticketed amount:"???

You word your answer with such a stern tone, which I really appreciate. just wondering if you could provide some insight about that form for my situation?

Originally Posted by inv4zn (Post 8616668)

This is a court, not fucking craigslist - you can't "negotiate".

Originally Posted by jpw12 (Post 8616651)

But why do they have these dispute forms allowing me to "B1 - To request a reduction of the ticketed amount: and/or
B2 - To request time to pay the ticketed amount:"???

You word your answer with such a stern tone, which I really appreciate. just wondering if you could provide some insight about that form for my situation?

Originally Posted by sho_bc (Post 8616507)

He asked three times, I answered directly three times. He even "thanked" my post the first time i answered. The answer was also mentioned in someone else's post. Same thing. There's a quote that comes to mind about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result? Same could be said about asking the same question over and over and expecting a different answer.

Originally Posted by jpw12 (Post 8616651)

Note the part I said about my personal financial status. I know enough that the justice system isn't built to heavily penalize low-income earners in proportion to average-income earners, but to provide justice where justice is due.



But why do they have these dispute forms allowing me to "B1 - To request a reduction of the ticketed amount: and/or
B2 - To request time to pay the ticketed amount:"???

You word your answer with such a stern tone, which I really appreciate. just wondering if you could provide some insight about that form for my situation?

Originally Posted by sho_bc (Post 8616507)

There's a quote that comes to mind about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?