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BoostedBB6 06-12-2015 02:01 PM

Yes, Brembo blanks are made in China, but they are made to Brembo standards. They have to meet TUV and DOT standards. The same factory that makes the Brembo blanks also makes a no name, cheap line that has no DOT/TUV testing.

I know this because I was formerly a rep from Brembo in North America and have been to there factories in Italy.

Made in China is not the problem, its the standards that the products meet. A lot of the eBay stuff is simply made using cheap material. Most of them will work, but do you really want to risk your life on some dirt cheap rotors? Spend $20 more each and get the cheap stuff from local suppliers. If they fail then you have an option for return/exchange/warranty.

thumper 06-12-2015 02:15 PM

are there still fake brembo parts still floating around on fleabay?

BoostedBB6 06-12-2015 02:26 PM

Always will be.

At one trade show I went to there was an "asian" section of all the parts suppliers from China and surrounding areas that offered products. They knocked off everything.
Some of there products were hilarious. There was a line called Blembo.....needless to say my bosses were not pleased to find out about that but I had a good chuckle.

Brembo is good about cracking down on fakes, but there are just to many places knoking stuff off that they cant touch.

PK-EK 06-12-2015 02:57 PM

I think we all agree that the cheap rotors are Lordco/Vancouver Auto Parts/Pacific Parts are fine.

Just don't cheap out on the brake pads

tinico 06-12-2015 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PK-EK (Post 8647545)
I think we all agree that the cheap rotors are Lordco/Vancouver Auto Parts/Pacific Parts are fine.

Just don't cheap out on the brake pads

+1

Cheap rotors + good pads
That's how I roll since 2004

godwin 06-12-2015 05:22 PM

If you guys care about braking performance, do flush your brake fluid while you are at it.

Hehe 06-12-2015 08:23 PM

As many have already mentioned, when it comes to tires and brakes, use the best within your budget. They are the last thing on a car you want to cheap out on.

If you search hard enough, you might find some US seller selling good sets (as in pads+rotor) or kit for cheap.

I remember when I got my Mini, and while randomly looking performance part online, I found a complete set (everything) of Brembo drilled kit for just under 2k, regular priced elsewhere for 3k+.

lowda9 06-12-2015 09:12 PM

I recently ordered 17 dollar front rotors from rockauto. They work fine.

tiger_handheld 06-12-2015 09:16 PM

i've never been able to match pads with rotors. I always seem to get squeeking noise and the only way i was able to stop that was to get the shitty pads from Lordco to go with my shitty rotors from Oreally.

This time I'm looking for a 'matching set' that will work well.

The Hawk HPS and Akibono names have come across. Same as Worldpac. I have no idea on any of these brands! For rotors they are Pilenga.

Any of heard of these brands?!

shenmecar 06-12-2015 09:20 PM

Brake Kits - OE Replacement Kits

I've personally used brake rotors + pads from this company. They're actually not bad. After the break in, they feel just like any OEM pads + rotors. Free shipping from Ontario. Email and ask them for CAD pricing though.

SumAznGuy 06-13-2015 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger_handheld (Post 8647653)
The Hawk HPS

Hawk is the brand, very good pads but are very dusty.
HPS is their street pads. OEM replacement but a lot dustier than OEM.
Less than OEM braking power and easier to get brake fade vs OEM.
I'd stay away from those pads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 8647633)
Brembo drilled kit for just under 2k, regular priced elsewhere for 3k+.

I'd stay away from drilled/slotted rotors.
Save some $$$ and stick with the blanks.

BoostedBB6 06-13-2015 08:39 AM

Drilled/Slotted rotors will DECREASE breaking efficiency unless you also increase the rotor size to compensate.
Whenever you drill or slot a rotor you are removing surface area and that means less friction generated. They only aid in cooling of the brakes to fight fade.
Unless you are doing some SERIOUS track driving, or use your brakes to the point where heat dissipation of a stock blank is surpassed, there is no reason to use a slotted or drilled rotor other than for a look.

asian_XL 06-13-2015 06:46 PM

We had local cheap pads on the C230K, it squeals like no one and horrible grip. At the end, I paid much more to have them all replaced with better pads.

Like other said drilled rotors are not good for daily driver.

Gh0stRider 06-13-2015 10:07 PM

i need to do my rotors and pads very soon.

shop suggested Hawk HPS, but i know they dust quite a bit. would the hawk ceramic pads be a better choice?

i can't decide on rotors.

westopher 06-13-2015 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8647748)
Hawk is the brand, very good pads but are very dusty.
HPS is their street pads. OEM replacement but a lot dustier than OEM.
Less than OEM braking power and easier to get brake fade vs OEM.
I'd stay away from those pads.

Those don't sound like very good pads. I haven't heard good things about hawk pads from many people.

bcrdukes 06-13-2015 11:06 PM

Track noobs love them lol

fliptuner 06-13-2015 11:13 PM

dukes only likes his pads 1 way

Spoiler!

J____ 06-14-2015 03:28 AM

hawk/akebono pads. Great stopping power with no noise or dust

SumAznGuy 06-14-2015 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J____ (Post 8647963)
hawk/akebono pads. Great stopping power with no noise or dust

ALL Hawk pads will be dusty. I've used HP+, HT10, Blues, DT30, and truck ones and they are all dusty as heck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by westopher (Post 8647937)
Those don't sound like very good pads. I haven't heard good things about hawk pads from many people.

It's just the HPS pads which were meant to be more the OEM replacement type pads. They call it sport, but for the price of them, I would stick to OEM.
This was on my B15 non Brembo SE-R.

After that, I've only used HP+ for the street/autoX and HT10 on the track with the S2000 and ITR.
Currently, the Shitvic has DT30's and the CRX is running track and DD duties with Hawk Blue's. :heckno:

tinico 06-17-2015 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger_handheld (Post 8647653)
i've never been able to match pads with rotors. I always seem to get squeeking noise and the only way i was able to stop that was to get the shitty pads from Lordco to go with my shitty rotors from Oreally.

This time I'm looking for a 'matching set' that will work well.

...

A "matching set " will not stop the squealing. (example: race cars)
In my experience: metallic pads have close to 100% chance of squealing due to metallic particles in the pads, the cheap stuff you bought were probably organic brake pads (those don"t last long). if you want something with good performance/life and quiet but a little more expensive go for ceramic brake pads.

squealing can also be caused by debris(rocs/sand) caught in the pad

for fun go to your autoparts ask to see the different pads they have for your vehicle you will see the difference in the braking compound

but remember if switching out pads there is a break in procedure included in the box usually.
if changing compound type I suggest replacing the rotors also or have yours cut if they have good life left,cuz the compound from the previous pads might not make your new ones function 100%, but that is just to get the job done perfectly.

Grim 06-17-2015 03:48 PM

i used ebay rotor with dtc60 on mission before.
originally the rotor had slots..
after one mission day, they became blank... not sure if it was the rotor being cheaply made due to material or the dtc60 just chews through rotors quick.

but all in all the rotor held up.
i got brembo blanks now for mission, and i use the ebay rotor with some cheapy pads for daily.
not hard to stop the car if you only go 60km city driving :P

SumAznGuy 06-17-2015 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim (Post 8649299)
after one mission day, they became blank... not sure if it was the rotor being cheaply made due to material or the dtc60 just chews through rotors quick.

Only real way to tell is pull out to measure the rotor thickness vs a new rotor.
That being said, the DTC60's race pads are very hard on rotors when they are cold so it is possible that the rotors wore down quite a bit from the pads being cold.

Timpo 06-17-2015 06:02 PM

https://cantire.taleo.net/careersect...zW_Std_RGB.PNG

Dude, just go to Canadian Tire: Auto Parts | Canadian Tire

I did a favor and searched for your Acura EL.

Front Brake Rotor
$29

Certified Brake Rotor - Front | Canadian Tire

Brake Pads
$44

ATE PremiumOne Ceramic Brake Pads - Front | Canadian Tire

Timpo 06-17-2015 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoostedBB6 (Post 8647750)
Drilled/Slotted rotors will DECREASE breaking efficiency unless you also increase the rotor size to compensate.
Whenever you drill or slot a rotor you are removing surface area and that means less friction generated. They only aid in cooling of the brakes to fight fade.
Unless you are doing some SERIOUS track driving, or use your brakes to the point where heat dissipation of a stock blank is surpassed, there is no reason to use a slotted or drilled rotor other than for a look.

Drilled/slotted rotors aren't always good.

Just look at McLaren P1's Akebono brakes.
http://www.hybridcars.com/wp-content..._Wheel-668.jpg

Toyota Brembo Formula 1 Brakes
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...9972846437.jpg

Timpo 06-17-2015 06:20 PM

some brakes had big drilled holes
http://viper.dragtimes.com/img/wheelsbrakes.jpg
http://photos4.automanager.com/01235...55888e_640.jpg
http://www.wilwood.com/Images/BrakeK...3345-DR-lg.jpg

in comparison, modern exotic cars don't drill huge holes..

Bugatti Veyron
http://i43.tinypic.com/11w35nq.jpg

LaFerrari
http://image.superstreetonline.com/f...ront-brake.jpg


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