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that was a great read...definitely see John Scott in a different light, gotta love these player tribune stories
after reading that there's no doubt in my mind that i'd rather see an ASG full of John Scotts
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If there going to spend Ovechkin and Toews for a game for missing the all star game when legitimately injured because it's the rule of law then Wideman should get a minimum of 20 games.
IMO I think he probably didn't have his wits about him and thought it was another player and just reacted. That said if you're going to apply the rules a rule thing you have to apply it to every situation not just some of the time.
40.2 Automatic Suspension – Category I - Any player who deliberately strikes an official and causes injury or who deliberately applies physical force in any manner against an official with intent to injure, or who in any manner attempts to injure an official shall be automatically suspended for not less than twenty (20) games. (For the purpose of the rule, “intent to injure” shall mean any physical force which a player knew or should have known could reasonably be expected to cause injury.)
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The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place... and I donīt care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently, if you let it. You, me or nobody, is gonna hit as hard as life. But ain't about how hard you hit... It's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward... how much you can take, and keep moving forward. Thatīs how winning is done. Now, if you know what you worth, go out and get what you worth. - Rocky Balboa
Don Henderson was sent to hospital for precautionary reasons after a collision with Calgary Flames defenseman Dennis Wideman on Wednesday and has since been released, TSN's Darren Dreger reported Thursday.
The 47-year-old was knocked to the ice after Wideman, who was visibly dazed after being hit into the boards moments before, ran the linesman over from behind.
Related: Flames' Wideman: Cross-check on linesman was 'completely unintentional'
Sportsnet's Eric Francis reported that Henderson, who was able to finish the game, was in hospital until 5:00 a.m. dealing with "neck pain and nausea," and went through the concussion protocol.
Dreger added that a decision on whether Wideman will be suspended as a result of the collision is expected later Thursday.
20 games is light, even though it's the "rule". That was beyond deliberate and looked malicious. Not much info has been released yet from anyone.
I agree. Question is what is the typical reaction when you're woozy?
-Skate slowly back to the bench?
-Try to regain your focus as you skate?
-If you see something or someone in your way, you would put your arm and hand against that object to brace yourself?
I see none of that. He put his other hand on his stick and in a cross checking manner shoved the linesman. Keep in mind that the opposing preds player was skating back, he could've cross checked that player instead.
Man that whole John Scott thing and various other media fumbles and weird suspension / non-suspension and questionable referee decisions this year has really made me feel not very good about the NHL... Text book example of how to make a high quality product that speaks for itself look low quality and possibly even completely rigged.
Man that whole John Scott thing and various other media fumbles and weird suspension / non-suspension and questionable referee decisions this year has really made me feel not very good about the NHL... Text book example of how to make a high quality product that speaks for itself look low quality and possibly even completely rigged.
And this is problem when there is a lack of transparency.
The NHL doesn't care though so there won't be any changes.
I liked how Shanny brought about telling why a player got suspended. An additional step that I would like to see is them making a video for why a player wasn't suspended on a borderline/controversial hit that gets reviewed.
I don't buy the "he was woozy" thing too much. He got up had a slow skate, then had about 2 or 3 good hard strides, and banged his stick on the ice with one hand. Then grabbed his stick with both hands, and targetted the linesmans head in a hard crosscheck.
usually if you get your bell rung you either barely skate and just coast, or if you try skate hard you do the old stankey leg all over
This is where any free pass for Wideman ends for me. While I believe contact at this point was unavoidable, I do not accept or condone the finishing push of Wideman’s hands that exacerbated the degree of impact and caused a hard fall to the ice by the linesman.
I would ask Wideman why he didn’t bear hug the defenseless linesman to minimize the contact. Why didn’t he decelerate his forward motion in any way to reduce the impact? Finally, I would ask why he felt it necessary to extend his arms and finish the contact with a strong push on the back of linesman Henderson.
Usually it's pretty cut and dry
Kerry Fraser hits it on point, that's a 20 gamer at least
But the NHL is so shitty at being consistent when it comes to player discipline and punishments, wouldn't be surprised if he got just 5-10 games.
__________________ "There's a lot of dead people who had the right of way." "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." "I have a lot of beliefs, and I live by none of them. They're just my beliefs, they make me feel good about who I am. But if they get in the way of a thing I want, like I wanna jack off or something, I just do that."
Kerry Fraser should be director of player discipline.
The amount of detail he picked up from that play in his explanation was more than I had expected.
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Kerry Fraser should be director of player discipline.
The amount of detail he picked up from that play in his explanation was more than I had expected.
thats too much work for a retired official that is clearly enjoying whatever he is doing right now.
as for the John Scott article... awesome he is going, but did the league really say that? "are your daughters going to be proud?"
If they still have the fan vote next year, everyone should vote for Dorsett!
Remember that first campaign when it was "Vote for Rory"? He was leading up to the last week and somehow he was "outvoted". I'm surprised there weren't phantom votes from the NHL for Scott to not make the game.
If they still have the fan vote next year, everyone should vote for Dorsett!
Remember that first campaign when it was "Vote for Rory"? He was leading up to the last week and somehow he was "outvoted". I'm surprised there weren't phantom votes from the NHL for Scott to not make the game.
I don't think it was that he was outvoted, it was that they said there were multiple votes from the same people so they didn't count those votes instead.
The NHL is going to learn from this. There will not be a free reign vote in for the all star. They'll change it so that you can vote from a pool of players instead of any player in the NHL.
^^ I remember when they released the numbers over 4 weeks, one week was like 100,000-200,000 votes less than every other week for rory. it was obviously a case of the league 'vote-fixing'.
The NHL is such a joke. Not like the all-star game is truly an all-star game anyways.
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