You can get a 7 year old Cayman S though.

2008 Porsche Cayman for $37,995 in Toronto | autoTRADER.ca

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Porsche/C...&orup=53_15_58

Will assure you extra value on trade... because race.... i mean techno violet and hurricane cloth :lawl:


There is no evidence of track days on that car right....? :troll:

M3. Awesome car and it'll be good long term investment.

This thread makes me want to upgrade to a 335 now...

Oh OP, your car should have bluetooth that allows you to make and receive calls from your phone.

I added bluetooth music streaming with an A2DP adapter. I stuck it in the center console and now my music automatically starts playing when the car is turned on. You have to control it through your phone though. Steering wheel controls won't work.

Pony up for a F80/F82 lease.

Just my opinion, but not that big of a fan of E9X M3s. Or get a E46 and more leftover money for maintanance :)

Why? Would your vagina hurt if you drove something a bit more spartan than an interior made from leather massaged personally by the ghost of Isadore Horween?


The whole "interior" argument is kind of lame


Driving experience > interior


Why don't you just get a car with a giant 13" screen in the middle of the dash like every other jackass and still find a way to crash it with all of the electronic nannies there to hold your hand!

^Because there are people out there who values things other than the driving experience in a car. Why else would Mercs and Bentleys sell? They're boring as fuck to drive. And besides, you spend most of the time inside a car, thats why it kinda matters to some people.

M435i then


/thread

M235i


/thread

porsche 911 carrera s. reliable, good resale value, and fun to drive.

good investment too. random thought...have you guys seen 1995 models on craigslist? holy! the prices are the same or more than the 996/997s.

Reliability and cost effective is not really a european car strong suit.........but leasing would be a good choice.

Either a M3 or Q50 would get my vote.

You mean m3, do it right once.

2011+ C63

Lulz

You could just say "I don't want these because I don't like them" but you're using interior materials to justify it? Not to mention none of those are cross shopped......ever......

Oh motherfucking lulz

I'd very much consider the Cadillac ATS / ATS Coupe. 2.0L Turbo with M6 and LSD. And that isn't even the price topping model. A trifecta tune can get you 80hp.

There is so much turbo lag in the 2.0L ATS, Cadillac never again.

The Q50 sucks. Don't bother.

This coming from an infiniti fan, and fellow owner.

If they mess up the new Q60 half as bad as they messed up the Q50, infiniti is headed down a river of shit.

http://resources.carsguide.com.au/st...group-2014.jpg

http://www.lexus.com/cm-img/gallery/...-MY15-0075.jpg

or

http://www.auto-types.com/images/_au...Audi-TT_26.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/l...00458485_l.jpg

or

http://images.thecarconnection.com/h...00479964_h.jpg

http://www.jaguar.com/Images/XE_16MY...66x550.jpg?v=2
had to put a different colour in here, thought i was going overboard with the red :D

a buddy recently bought a 2011 c63 with a few mod's already done to it including an IPE exhaust. dat sound :sweetjesus:

Why have German cars gone downhill in quality control the past decade? I'm looking at you specifically, BMW and VW. Is it because they started manufacturing outside of Germany? Need a German auto guru to make sense of all this, man! Where is Ja Rule?!

Thanks. Good suggestion. I'll definitely go drive one. Clarkson hated it, has reception been good elsewhere?

:fuckthatshit:

I wish. Good 911's are way out of my price range, and I fear any Cayman I could buy for $40k might just be replacing my current rattles and reliability fears with new ones.

I sure do like a driver's car, though, and the Cayman seems like one of the best....

:toot:

Ironically: been there done that. Prior to my current 335, I owned an e46 335 coupe for many years. Loved that car to death, nearly a perfect car, miss things about it all the time.

Built in Germany. Does it actually make a diff?

Thx. Love the M3 of all gens. This thread further strengthens my suspicion that I would immediately love owning an M3.

If I went the 'buy used' route, I think a low-mileage e92 m3 would be the leading contender. Question is, can I find one that's in top shape within my budget?

Looking for something more modern, better build quality and/or newer and lower mileage, better equipped, and equally fun to drive. Any performance increase over my current 335 would be a bonus. Needs to look pretty, but thankfully I like the look of most of the cars mentioned in this thread.

Yeah, that's exactly what I have currently. But my 335 has no iDrive (nor, I assume, does yours) so the bluetooth is controlled via the CD player buttons and it's complicated and annoying to use. I don't really use it much anyway, care more about the music.

Having to change songs and control music functions via the iPhone plugged into the center console *sucks*. It's probably going to land me a distracted driving ticket sooner than later. If there was a USB port and I could at least change tracks with the factory stereo, but alas there is not.

I'd find and punish the imbecile who first leased my car for failing to pay a few hundred to get a USB port (in the post-iPod era!).... but I'll let him off the hook because he took a huge depreciation hit on the car, thus making it affordable enough for me to buy.

And yeah, agree with the dude who said modding German cars is just no. Not into any interior mods, period.

Thanks to all for the suggestions, this has definitely been a helpful thread.

Hmm. I think you and I have a different outlook on that one, sir.

To answer your question, I have to sit in my car every time I drive it... so yes, the interior fucking matters.

Do you drive an open-wheel race car as your DD? It is a great driving experience, so surely it's no problem to overlook the lack of a cup holder, passenger seat, roof, etc...

For the record, we agree about electronic nannies. Shit like "lane departure warning" and "active collision avoidance system" sound absolutely tragic.

No. Thread remains open.

Thanks for the suggestion, it's prob a logical one... I know I'd love driving that car every day.

But I don't like looking at it. It looks wrong. It looks like a 435 that's been shrunk to 80% of its original length, but the same height/width:

http://www.musclegainguide.com/warped.png

Yeah. If the e92 M3 leads the list of contenders if I were to buy used, then the 435 is at the front of the pack if I went the lease route.

I didn't use interior materials as an excuse to justify my brand-hate, I simply said that I *also* don't want something with cheap shit interior build quality.

And to be completely honest, the reason I don't want a Subaru/Cadillac/etc is because of the image associated with the brand. Call me a snob, sure... but, fuck it, I am sufficiently vain to blacklist a few cars that I just can't see myself in. It's nothing against the brands... Subarus are good cars and maybe the ATS is too, they're just not for me at this point. I don't think I have to justify further.

Also, I'm sure your ATS is fast, but I doubt very much it is any faster than my current car (~380bhp with Cobb engine maps, 6spd, AWD). I don't put straight line speed at the top of my must-haves list, so I'd happily drive something with less power, but the performance of a 2.0L 4cyl is just not going to get my automotive dick hard.

In summary: thanks for the suggestions, but I disagree on all points.

It's 8:30am and you have already made my day :D

Someone get Ja on the phone!!

. Have you looked at lease rates for the Macan S?

Before someone comes in and interjects that the macan is not a drivers car, man that thing was moving around the track at a day I spent at mission. I can assure you the guy was having a great time running circles around me.