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archarmy 08-09-2015 12:38 AM
sorry for your gti and i hope the rider who is one of my best friends pull thur.he is a very nice guy. im so sad

SoNaRWaVe 08-09-2015 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 8668742)

1. You hear VROOM...VROOM...sounds like a downshift. I don't know bikes too well but I hear VROOM VROOM just before the crash.

2. HARD impact on the back of my car. Bike bounces off my car, skids on the road to it's position in the middle of the road.

3. Fuel sprays everywhere. There isn't a fire before impact but there is visible liquid spray on impact.

4. A second after impact, liquid lights on fire. Especially near the bike, which is a massive fireball.

5. Rider was definitely on the bike on impact and was still on the bike when it slid to the middle of the road. Rider gets off his bike, on fire, runs into the bushes. Emerges from the bushes a few seconds later, still on fire, tosses helmet, starts stripping and jumps back into the bushes. Still on fire.

By now, other people are arriving and helping him out. I'm sure the family doesn't need this video out there. Only me and my friend have the video and I'll be calling the officer that gave me his card.
if you heard vroom vroom before impact and it sounds louder, then most likely it is a downshift. but when you panic, it could also be an acceleration when you are trying to pull in the front brakes (bad hand positioning on throttle).

but i would imagine it is a downshift to try and quickly brake as much and as fast as you can when you see an object you are about to crash into. possibly lost control of the bike somehow on that road before he hit into your car.

Manic! 08-09-2015 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by archarmy (Post 8668950)
sorry for your gti and i hope the rider who is one of my best friends pull thur.he is a very nice guy. im so sad
Everyone here on RS hopes he pulls through too.

Tegra_Devil 08-09-2015 08:42 AM
so thats what u look like....saw it on the news

KO7 08-09-2015 11:54 AM
As a former rider who hung up the helmet and gloves after lowsiding at 120km/hr: I definitely feel for the rider and wish him the best possible recovery.

As a current white GTI owner myself: That sucks Ed, hope ICBC gives you fair value.
Also, is my white GTI cursed too like the others here? :/

Qmx323 08-09-2015 12:12 PM
As terrible as it is what happened to the rider and I hope he pulls through and recovers well.

I can't believe people would nitpick on how OP worded his tweet and even give HIM shit on Facebook for something that he literally had no input on....

Like, you people aren't trained EMTs or burn specialists, you weren't even there... I bet half the people that are giving Ed a hard time would just whip out there phones and record shit. OP did all that he COULD do as everything that could have been done was done already.

I apologize if my post seems insensitive to the rider, that was not the intent of this post, I cannot stress that enough.

Ronin 08-10-2015 02:36 PM
Police just dropped by my office to pick up the dashcam footage.

Officer had a red Power Rangers flash drive :lol

Eff-1 08-11-2015 12:37 PM
In case anyone is curious...

Quote:
METRO VANCOUVER — A motorcyclist who slammed into a parked car Friday morning on Shell Road in Richmond is expected to face a long recovery after sustaining severe burns.

Cpl. Dennis Hwang of the Richmond RCMP said the incident, which happened in broad day light, shortly after 9 a.m. in the 2500 block of Shell Road, may be a result of speeding.

The 2015 KTM racing motorcycle burst into flames when the fuel tank was compromised. Notably, no one else was reported injured.

"The male in his 30s was brought to a local area hospital with extensive injuries due to fire. He is expected to recover but it will be a long recovery process," said Hwang.

Alcohol not believed to be a factor and the Integrated Collision Analysis and Reconstruction Service (ICARS) is on the case, said Hwang.

"We're thankfully to anyone who was able to render assistance," said Hwang.
Richmond motorcyclist faces long recovery from burns after hitting parked car

entrax 08-11-2015 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Eff-1 (Post 8669753)
as someone who's had to have large patches of skin burnt enough to require new skin to form from scratch, it's definitely a permanent life changer. I hope he gets the care needed at home and at the hospital. I definitely needed help to walk, sit up, eat, etc. (skin's ability to stretch is something I learned to appreciate) so I hope someone's gonna be around him literally every minute for the next couple months for emotional and practical support.

The_AK 08-11-2015 03:08 PM
I feel like ICBC will announce this 50/50 fault

Mikoyan 08-11-2015 09:19 PM
Back when I did a lot more First Aid work and training, I learned about the Rule of Nine to quickly estimate the amount of surface area affected for an adult body.

You can divide up the body into 11 zones that roughly equate to 9% for each zone. Arms 1 zone each, Legs 2 zones each, torso 4 zones, head 1 zone.

If that 70% number is accurate. to give you an idea of how much surface area that is, that roughly equates to 8 zones. Both sides of the entire torso, both arms, and both legs down to the knees for example.

It puts the severity of the injuries in a way that's more understandable than just numbers.

I hope he's got all the support he needs for his recovery.

Mike.L 08-14-2015 10:29 AM
2015 bike, sounds like he may have been a new rider this summer.

SumAznGuy 08-14-2015 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike.L (Post 8670768)
2015 bike, sounds like he may have been a new rider this summer.
So if you have a Ford model T, does that make you 1000 years old and your name is C.M. Burns? :rukidding:

CharlieH 08-14-2015 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike.L (Post 8670768)
2015 bike, sounds like he may have been a new rider this summer.

Sound logic. Valentino Rossi is riding a 2015 M1 this year, he must be new too. Ass.

TypeRNammer 08-14-2015 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike.L (Post 8670768)
2015 bike, sounds like he may have been a new rider this summer.
Do people even read through the god damn thread?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ?NR (Post 8668734)
Rider is a family man with a young child, a friend and fellow rider. Best wishes and speedy recovery. He's a car guy as well. I heard he's in pretty serious condition with 70% burns to body. Ed, sorry about your car. You will find a good replacement in time. Terrible freak of an accident. What a shame.
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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8668630)
Heard from a friend that the fellow rider is in ICU with 3rd degree burns.
From what I have heard, he is a well respected mature rider and the accident was an accident and he wasn't carrying a gas can in his lap.
There is even a chance he is a fellow RS member.
This is the information I got from reading the whole thread.

The rider is a fmaily man as well as a repsected mature rider, from what RS User SumAznGuy heard.

SkinnyPupp 08-14-2015 12:01 PM
I'm not trying to put the guy down obviously, I am genuinely wondering - under what circumstances does a sober person riding a motorcycle crash into a parked car in broad daylight? To the point where the bike breaks apart (fire notwithstanding - that could happen under strange many circumstances)

I'm not a motorcyclist, so I have no idea how this can happen if the rider is being 'mature' and riding within reason.

Maybe someone can clear this up for me...

radioman 08-14-2015 12:07 PM
Bike could have had a mechanical problem.

Could have set a flame before it hit the car.

Tire could have punctured.

Maybe he got stung by a bee in his eye.

There's so many things that could have happened.

SkinnyPupp 08-14-2015 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by radioman (Post 8670806)
Bike could have had a mechanical problem.

Could have set a flame before it hit the car.

Tire could have punctured.

Maybe he got stung by a bee in his eye.

There's so many things that could have happened.
Under any circumstance I don't see how he was going any less than like 80 KM/h

heleu 08-14-2015 12:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8670803)
I'm not trying to put the guy down obviously, I am genuinely wondering - under what circumstances does a sober person riding a motorcycle crash into a parked car in broad daylight? To the point where the bike breaks apart (fire notwithstanding - that could happen under strange many circumstances)

I'm not a motorcyclist, so I have no idea how this can happen if the rider is being 'mature' and riding within reason.

Maybe someone can clear this up for me...
When I lowsided my motorcycle at 60km/hr 10 years ago, I clearly remember a puddle of gasoline that the fireman had to clean up (nothing was on fire; they threw sand on it to soak up the liquid and then shovelled it away).

I didn't hit anything else, and when I inspected my bike after the accident, nothing was broken except for the fairings and a scratched crank cover. I'm pretty sure the gas just probably just leaked out the top of my tank at the fillhole.

If the bike actually hit a car, there could be lots of ways for the bike to break apart and leak gasoline everywhere. The fuel tank is completely exposed afterall.

Anyways, hope the rider pulls through.

radioman 08-14-2015 12:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8670808)
Under any circumstance I don't see how he was going any less than like 80 KM/h
On a 1200 Duke thats a few seconds on the throttle. Can't say I've never opened up a little on the road for just a short few seconds.

Now imagine while doing that something extremely unfortunate happens.

trollguy 08-14-2015 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8670808)
Under any circumstance I don't see how he was going any less than like 80 KM/h
i may have missed your reasoning but why not?

SumAznGuy 08-14-2015 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by heleu (Post 8670809)
When I lowsided my motorcycle at 60km/hr 10 years ago, I clearly remember a puddle of gasoline that the fireman had to clean up (nothing was on fire
Not sure about all bikes, but on my 07 CBR600RR, I dropped it once in the parking lot. I accidentally grabbed too much front brake.
When I brought the bike back up, gasoline came out of one of the drain tubes.

Good thing my bike is neked and has sliders so no damage.

SkinnyPupp 08-14-2015 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by trollguy (Post 8670818)
i may have missed your reasoning but why not?
My bad, I thought there was more collision damage. I thought the bike was broken apart, and the car was smashed. It looks like all the damage was due to the fire. Also the RCMP said speed "may" have been involved, so I took that into account.

Looking back at what evidence is available to me, there's no reason to conclude that speed was involved. RCMP may have more evidence though, and they did say that speed "may have" been involved. Looking at the pictures, it all looks like fire damage... So I guess it could have been a 'lowside' as others described (this is the type of thing I was looking for as a non rider, thanks)

Also according to a comment left on global by one of the people assisting the guy, he said he hit a rock.

The whole thing kind of sucks :(

320icar 08-14-2015 01:52 PM
Gas coming out of a dropped bike is very common. Whether it's from the tank vent system, or overflow of the carbs getting tipped over. It only take a tiny bit of fuel to get a bike aflame. Of course it sounds like in this case the tank must have been ruptured to cover the rider in fuel

Edit: skinnypup, go look on global or cbc or any news site. 99.999% they put speed as a factor with motorcycles. It's just a bullshit blanket term

Mike.L 08-14-2015 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieH (Post 8670793)
Sound logic. Valentino Rossi is riding a 2015 M1 this year, he must be new too. Ass.
Ok, sorry I meant to say 2015 brand new bike and a 300CC class bike.

Lets not bring professional riders into this, we are talking about the average rider.


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