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Timpo 08-29-2015 08:17 AM

American tourist suing City of Vancouver for seawall cyclist crash
 
American tourist suing City of Vancouver for seawall cyclist crash
BY KENNETH CHAN
5:37 AM PDT, FRI AUGUST 28, 2015

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/wp-conten...45-984x500.jpg

The City of Vancouver and an unknown ‘John Doe’ cyclist are being sued by an American woman who broke her back after she was knocked off the Stanley Park seawall by a cyclist.

Court documents, a notice of civil claim filed in B.C. Supreme Court on Wednesday, obtained by Vancity Buzz indicate Virginia state resident Charmaine Mitchell is suing the parties involved in the incident. She is being represented by Vancouver personal injury lawyer Anthony Vecchio.

On the afternoon of Saturday, July 19, 2014, Mitchell was walking the seawall with her boyfriend when a group of speeding cyclists crossed into the pedestrian lane. One of the cyclists hit Mitchell, knocking her off the ground and onto the rocks 10 feet below.

“The guy was not wearing a helmet. Three guys came around like they were chasing each other,” boyfriend James Drummond told Vancity Buzz in an interview in 2014. “The first two came into the pedestrian lane, causing us to move over towards the edge. The third guy came right at her and knocked her off the seawall.”

The cyclist who hit Mitchell was only identified as a male. He did not flee from the incident and provided his information to the Park Ranger and lifeguard.

Mitchell’s injuries were extensive, with a fractured left patella, three fractured vertebrae including a burst fracture, and a fractured big right toe. Eight screws and two rods were inserted into her back during a surgical procedure performed days following the collision.

At the time, surgeons expected that several months of recovery and physical therapy would be required before she could walk again.

The plaintiff alleges the City of Vancouver is also responsible for the collision on the basis of negligence, given that it has a duty to ensure the seawall design is safe for all users, both pedestrians and cyclists.

“The advocacy that they have put in for the cyclists in this city has been well documented and controversial. In a major tourist area like the seawall, the same advocacy needs to be shared between pedestrians and cyclists,” Drummond continued.

“That particular point on the seawall is very narrow and there are points the seawall should maybe be a part where cyclists dismount.”

Mitchell was born in Toronto and lived in Vancouver for three years before moving to Virginia state. She has visited Vancouver at least a dozen times in recent years.

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/08/a...seawall-crash/

CRS 08-29-2015 08:40 AM

Vancitybuzz...

Vancitybuzz...

Vancitybuzz...

Vancitybuzz...

Can we please stop using that as a source for articles?

underscore 08-29-2015 08:43 AM

Seriously, this garbage article doesn't even say how much or what exactly she's suing them for.

ZN6 08-29-2015 08:57 AM

Quote:

The cyclist who hit Mitchell was only identified as a male. He did not flee from the incident and provided his information to the Park Ranger and lifeguard.


American tourist suing City of Vancouver for seawall cyclist crash
How is he a fucking John Doe then? What information did he give? John Doe @ 123 fake street 604-911-6969? Not sure how you can't identify a person in today's age where you can take a quick snap of his bike or something. Better yet get his license. It's a public place so taking a picture of him and the incident shouldn't be a privacy concern.

Vancity buzz is full of fucking bs.

TekDragon 08-29-2015 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ZN6 (Post 8675521)
How is he a fucking John Doe then? What information did he give? John Doe @ 123 fake street 604-911-6969? Not sure how you can't identify a person in today's age where you can take a quick snap of his bike or something. Better yet get his license. It's a public place so taking a picture of him and the incident shouldn't be a privacy concern.

Vancity buzz is full of fucking bs.

The cyclist who hit Mitchell was only identified as a male. He did not flee from the incident and provided his information to the Park Ranger and lifeguard.

Reading, it's a life skill.

ZN6 08-29-2015 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TekDragon (Post 8675532)
The cyclist who hit Mitchell was only identified as a male. He did not flee from the incident and provided his information to the Park Ranger and lifeguard.

Reading, it's a life skill.

:rukidding:

The cyclist from what I am reading stayed at the scene, gave his information to the park ranger and life guard. How he is an anonymous John Doe who cannot be identified as anything other than being male? Even if he gave false information there are other ways to identify him through a picture or actually asking for some form of ID like a license.

You quoted the same thing I did, how are you reading it? Do tell. I'm curious.

corollagtSr5 08-29-2015 10:10 AM

Lol excellent reading comprehension.

Klobbersaurus 08-29-2015 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZN6 (Post 8675521)
How is he a fucking John Doe then? What information did he give? John Doe @ 123 fake street 604-911-6969? Not sure how you can't identify a person in today's age where you can take a quick snap of his bike or something. Better yet get his license. It's a public place so taking a picture of him and the incident shouldn't be a privacy concern.

Vancity buzz is full of fucking bs.

because the person is 16y/o minor and cant be sued or named

nns 08-29-2015 10:19 AM

I don't see why the city should be sued. My uneducated guess would be because the victim knows the city has deeper pockets to benefit from than the cyclist who struck her in the first place.

noclue 08-29-2015 10:27 AM

it'll probably be cheaper to settle out instead of going to court and possibly being forced to install safety measures throughout the whole seawall.

multicartual 08-29-2015 10:31 AM

Some cyclists are complete fucking assholes who almost try and hit people, people have too much of a "me me me" attitude when riding and it can kill people.

Manic! 08-29-2015 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by nns (Post 8675542)
I don't see why the city should be sued. My uneducated guess would be because the victim knows the city has deeper pockets to benefit from than the cyclist who struck her in the first place.

Because the city bends over backwards for bikers.

Bouncing Bettys 08-29-2015 11:02 AM

An American suing someone? That's almost unheard of.

van_city23 08-29-2015 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nns (Post 8675542)
I don't see why the city should be sued. My uneducated guess would be because the victim knows the city has deeper pockets to benefit from than the cyclist who struck her in the first place.

bingo, the guy on the bike probably isn't worth much and won't be able to pay whatever the damages are. So, name the city as a defendant too. The more defendants, the deeper the pockets

asahai69 08-29-2015 12:15 PM

this is all i was thinking of as i read that ariticle


PiuYi 08-29-2015 12:49 PM

watch the court order City of Van to install railings/fences all along the seawall :rukidding:

Mr.HappySilp 08-29-2015 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Klobbersaurus (Post 8675541)
because the person is 16y/o minor and cant be sued or named

I am pretty sure you can still someone if they are a minor. Maybe their parent/legal guardian will have to pay for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nns (Post 8675542)
I don't see why the city should be sued. My uneducated guess would be because the victim knows the city has deeper pockets to benefit from than the cyclist who struck her in the first place.

Exactly! suing this cyclist won't get you very much but suing the city will. Even if the court founds the city at fault for even 1% you still can get money. As if from the cyclist, he is 16 years old, with no job how are you going to get money from him?

Is a good move really and I would do the same too. At least after paying this woman, hopefully the city will actually start enforcing more strict rules for cyclist.

Timpo 09-03-2015 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8675595)
Is a good move really and I would do the same too. At least after paying this woman, hopefully the city will actually start enforcing more strict rules for cyclist.

Oh if that's the case, I hope this woman will win.
Cyclists tend to block the road and it's really dangerous and frustrating.

I especially hate these spandex warriors.


Timpo 09-03-2015 08:44 AM


JaPoola 09-03-2015 09:53 AM

She probably has a hefty medical bill.

european 09-03-2015 11:35 AM


mdnx 09-04-2015 09:05 AM

Makes you wonder why shouldn't cyclist pay insurance to ride bikes on the road too.


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