Originally Posted by Sid Vicious (Post 8678528)

i don't see why the focus is specifically on syrian refugees. i guess this is perpetuated by the same dumbass kony 2012 people, but off the top of my head i can name a shitload of countries with refugee crises currently

iraq, afghanistan, nigeria, ukraine, somalia, sudan, libya, mali, palestine

so what is canada supposed to let in all of these refugees?

Originally Posted by Sid Vicious (Post 8678528)

i don't see why the focus is specifically on syrian refugees. i guess this is perpetuated by the same dumbass kony 2012 people, but off the top of my head i can name a shitload of countries with refugee crises currently

iraq, afghanistan, nigeria, ukraine, somalia, sudan, libya, mali, palestine

so what is canada supposed to let in all of these refugees?

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8678532)

Have you been watching the news?

Originally Posted by Sid Vicious (Post 8678536)

and syria's refugee crisis is different in which way compared to the countries i listed?

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8678542)

Yes it is.

Originally Posted by Sid Vicious (Post 8678550)

care to elaborate?

the refugees are escaping from islamic extermists. this is no different from any of the countries i listed except ukraine

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8678553)

Because they are not flooding Europe by the thousands, some washing up on shore dead. Also Palestine refugees where made refugees by the creation of Israel in 1948 and has nothing to do with Islamic extremists.

Originally Posted by melloman (Post 8678497)

How about you just sponsor the 20,000 refugee's then Manic.

For fucks sake, if it costs $60k/year to keep 1 person in prison, how much will it cost per refugee? I'm all for saving lives but that comes with a cost, and it's not a small cost.

Just think of;
-Welfare
-Social housing
-Food
-Job Training
-ESL (if they don't speak English)
-Medical/Dental
-Other social services (PTSD treatment, other mental illnesses)

All these bleeding hearts need to think about what they're saying. Bringing in all these people will raise our already inflated taxes, and reduce & limit our own social services. And I can guarantee that $5 from these bleeding hearts won't do shit.

Originally Posted by Sid Vicious (Post 8678556)

o really?
Refugee crisis: Where are all these people coming from and why? - World - News - The Independent

and i forgot i listed palestine

and anyways my point still stands. the world is facing a refugee crisis due to the middle east generally being a shithole, canada doesn't have a obligation to accept everyone

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8678517)

Maybe we will. We having a hell of a time finding reliable workers.

Originally Posted by meowjinboo (Post 8678560)

there were lots of citizens in the 80's and 70's who left soviet bloc coutnries from eastern europe.

Go to Calgary and talk to cab drivers about it. They have good stories.

My parents fled Military Junta in the 70's from Greece and landed in Canada in 74 in Montreal (where I wish they stayed there haha).

Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8678573)

Maybe if it happens to suit your own selfish needs? :seriously:

Originally Posted by godwin (Post 8678512)

Honestly homeless is a more complicated problem than just a home. It requires mental health (which we had neglected for a few decades), social work and occupational therapists.

Most "homeless" get booted out of their place of shelter and become homeless usually because of addiction / behaviour infraction with rules of the place eg no drugs/ drinking. They cycle in and out of the shelters and places much like they do with jails. "housing the homeless" by itself doesn't do squat, except pissing off the neighbors and money down the drain. We need the support services together to keep them from being homeless, unfortunately I will analogize it to police services is usually needed for the few percent of the repeat offenders. Honestly can't do that without raising taxes and MSP premiums.

Homeless we are dealing with mentally ill / defective.. having to fend for yourself, living on the street and with drugs really f*cks people's mind up, I say they are always stuck in survival mode with no ability to care for others, much less obeying rules.. Refugees we are dealing with people who are fleeing war, more short term.

Here is an example I find striking.. When you talk to an homeless person, the conversation is very focused on the homeless person, his/her immediate needs, wants and whether you can satisfy them.. when you talk to a refugee, they worry about their families, the future..

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8678318)

I'm 100% for bringing Syrian refugees to Canada but putting them in the most expensive city in Canada? thats ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8678575)

im sure the vast majority of those people came here by legitimate means.. as my grandparents did..

you know, going through like, the proper avenues, doing the proper paper work, applying to the right places?

But yea, in a world that is FAR less secure than it was 30-50 years ago, lets just let in thousands without proper means or documentation

Originally Posted by ajei (Post 8678660)

lol...so they don't care about themselves?
(maybe they're just eager to get to germany...btw, then its off to the UK)
https://youtu.be/HjbJGhMv2GM