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Just that no one wants to talk about the 370z in this thread Timpo. Dont you get it? |
Just like how nobody wants to talk about GTRs in every other car thread on this forum. He never gets it |
You will still lack manhood owning this car. |
There's an MX-5 GT, which adds Navi, 17 inch wheels, Bose sound system, heated seats, etc. MX-5 GT: $41,125 plus tax Who would pay this kind of price for a Miata? :yuno: https://www.mazda.ca/en/shopping-too...#/ON/2016/MX-5 http://ca.mazdacdn.com/common/cars/2...1834400130.jpg |
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well for starters, the s2000 has 240hp, and that was in 1999! Hard to justify spending over $40k on a car that only has 155hp |
First of all, awesome review! I gotta say, IMHO, Japanese manufacturers are not getting it. It's not just how the car feels, but also the way it looks. The ND Miata looks dated before it even hit the market. And really there's only one single problem: head/taillights are god forbiddingly ugly. they need to go back to the drawing board, think with LED/OLED only for both head/taillight. Else it really looks like a car from the 90s (unless that's the purpose) Look what BMW is doing: Audi pioneered fancy headlight design with being the first to introduce LED headlight, and it brought automobile design languages to a new dimension. Lexus is finally getting it, and the new NX and RX has some very nice lighting design. But for Mazda to be able to sell Miata, they really need to up their game. I truly wish Japanese manufacturers were more competitive, but Europeans or (god forbid) even Korean are really killing with design. |
I actually don't mind the ND Miata's design, power weight, everything. Overall, they did a very good job. I just have a problem with its price. It's more expensive than the Nissan Z car. What the shit. Miata needs to be $20,000-$25,000 to be competitive. Not $41,125 plus tax. |
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In my opinion, Miata is definitely in a different league. It's a lightweight sportscar. Richard Hammond from Top Gear said "Miata was never popular because of what it had, but because of what it didn't have" so Miata should be getting rid of all the luxury features like all the other cars have. To an extent obviously. |
btw Mazda AZ1 is very light...it might even be lighter than Lotus Elise. http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...zupcflxfi3.jpg http://testdrivejunkie.com/wp-conten...z1-620x310.jpg http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...w79f7wfjpg.jpg |
i cringed a little whenever he said "chassis" |
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Miata is an affordable sports car, or supposed to be. I don't expect them to come with smart lighting. Neither do I think the design looks dated, the front/side profile is refreshing but the rear is borderline timpo material. How much was NC's MSRP when it launched? $25K seems like the sweet spot but I don't think $30K is outrageous given how low our dollar is. |
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http://static1.businessinsider.com/i...he-new-nsx.jpg http://image.automobilemag.com/f/870...-headlight.jpg Plus, if it's an econobox, fine... but it's a 40K+ convertible with 2016 design. I expect it to come at least as an option. |
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Second off, you can't compare a BMW to mazda. Just like you can't compare the NSX to the Miata. All the companies which you are listing are luxury divisions of other manufacturers. Mazda doesn't even have a luxury division. You're all over the map here, and I really don't know what you are talking about, the miata is fucking ugly, the tailights are hideous, and the front squinty chopped off design makes it look stupid. But comparing it to the headlights of a brand new fully loaded 4 series BMW is beyond daft. Also in terms of your broad statement of Euro Vs. JDM, lets look at something aside from Mercedes, BMW and Audi. For example (all 2015 vehicles): http://assets.passionperformance.ca/..._en_Europe.jpg vs. http://www.mazda.co.uk/assets/uk/car...back_rhd_1.png ^Please tell me how Peugeot is doing any better than Mazda. http://newcarreviewer.com/wp-content...Citroen-C5.jpg Vs. http://www.drivearabia.com/news/wp-c...a-Accord-5.jpg Also please explain how this: https://s3.graphiq.com/sites/default...7A_3929254.jpg is so much more drastically advanced than this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...BCsseldorf.jpg |
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Finally saw one in person tonight. Have to agree that the head lights are really ugly and the car overall looks odd. |
Man that new chassis is going to be a good platform Rich |
The lighting technology is just a drop in the bucket. Check out Audi's matrix LED and BMW's laser light technology. Don't think any of the Japanese marque have anything like that ready for market consumption. Also, compare the new iDrive to anything Lexus/Infiniti/Acura has, they don't stand a chance in sophistication and complexity. You could almost argue complexity for complexity's sake is a moot point, but it is what it is. The Japanese can also make amazingly high tech and complex cars like LF-A, GT-R, NSX but the major point is, the Japanese do it once in a while, whereas the Germans do it consistently. In a market environment like this, do stuff well once in a while doesn't stack up. Not moving forward is the same as moving backwards. |
can almost see his erection during the vid :lawl: |
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wow reminds me of a mini F-Type i could see Bond driving that |
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