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68style 11-13-2015 01:09 PM

Talk about polar opposites and I don't entirely agree with the approach, but my buddy has lots of rental places in Arizona and if some jerkoff doesn't pay him rent he just tells his property manager guy down there and Mr. Carry/Conceal just drives on over, busts the door in and turfs them. Done and done.

If only we were somewhere in between that and the current bleeding Liberal BS, this stuff wouldn't happen.

SumAznGuy 11-13-2015 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by frost91 (Post 8698415)
there was a user here before named "dinosaur" who was very familiar with the RTA, i think he dealt with the same type of tenants i deal with and he was very good at keeping detailed records and filing eviction notices. i can't seem to find his posts, maybe i am spelling his name wrong?

Dinosaur is his GF.
Guy you are referring to is Gridlock

Here's one of their stickied post.
http://www.revscene.net/forums/68903...-landlord.html

Harvey Specter 11-13-2015 07:27 PM

Another piece of advice I'll throw out there is if you buy a property and it's tenanted, ALWAYS get the seller to evict the tenant and only take possession after the tenet has left. Never buy a property with a tenant, even if the rent is good, because there's people out there that will list properties that have a bad tenant and want to dump their problems on someone else.

I just closed a deal for a condo in YT and forced the seller to evict the tenant, seller wasn't happy but I told my Realtor I would walk away from my offer if the seller didn't comply. Seller agreed and now I was told by my Realtor the tenant is pissed so it could have been a problematic tenant.

Jmac 11-13-2015 07:42 PM

I think most people, good or bad, would be pissed about being evicted.

Lomac 11-13-2015 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvey Specter (Post 8698783)
I just closed a deal for a condo in YT and forced the seller to evict the tenant, seller wasn't happy but I told my Realtor I would walk away from my offer if the seller didn't comply. Seller agreed and now I was told by my Realtor the tenant is pissed so it could have been a problematic tenant.

....or it could have been a decent tenant who happened to be pissed off about being told to move out during a time when that would have been the last thing on their mind.

Sorry, but that's a shitty piece of advice. Especially since I've been on the receiving end of a similar attempt. Didn't help that the request was against RTA rules, so I kindly told him to bugger off.

Harvey Specter 11-13-2015 09:35 PM

Not sure how it's "shitty" advice when I'm talking from experience.

Gumby 11-13-2015 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvey Specter (Post 8698783)
Another piece of advice I'll throw out there is if you buy a property and it's tenanted, ALWAYS get the seller to evict the tenant and only take possession after the tenet has left. Never buy a property with a tenant, even if the rent is good, because there's people out there that will list properties that have a bad tenant and want to dump their problems on someone else.

I just closed a deal for a condo in YT and forced the seller to evict the tenant, seller wasn't happy but I told my Realtor I would walk away from my offer if the seller didn't comply. Seller agreed and now I was told by my Realtor the tenant is pissed so it could have been a problematic tenant.

If you were interested in a property that had a tenant, maybe the better piece of advice would be to talk to the tenant to see if he/she was a dick. Then based on your impression, you could decide to put an offer or not.

quasi 11-14-2015 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvey Specter (Post 8698783)
Another piece of advice I'll throw out there is if you buy a property and it's tenanted, ALWAYS get the seller to evict the tenant and only take possession after the tenet has left. Never buy a property with a tenant, even if the rent is good, because there's people out there that will list properties that have a bad tenant and want to dump their problems on someone else.

I just closed a deal for a condo in YT and forced the seller to evict the tenant, seller wasn't happy but I told my Realtor I would walk away from my offer if the seller didn't comply. Seller agreed and now I was told by my Realtor the tenant is pissed so it could have been a problematic tenant.

It also could have been a great tenant who's just pissed off there forced to find a new place, pack up all there stuff and move. I mean lets be honest what did you expect? The tenant doing cartwheels and high-fiving everyone in site because they just got evicted after their current landlord sold?

winson604 11-14-2015 06:48 AM

So the seller never informed the tenant that they were selling the place until it was already sold lol real winners

Carl Johnson 11-14-2015 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvey Specter (Post 8698783)
Another piece of advice I'll throw out there is if you buy a property and it's tenanted, ALWAYS get the seller to evict the tenant and only take possession after the tenet has left. Never buy a property with a tenant, even if the rent is good, because there's people out there that will list properties that have a bad tenant and want to dump their problems on someone else.

I just closed a deal for a condo in YT and forced the seller to evict the tenant, seller wasn't happy but I told my Realtor I would walk away from my offer if the seller didn't comply. Seller agreed and now I was told by my Realtor the tenant is pissed so it could have been a problematic tenant.

No shit the tenant is pissed. What else do you think would have happened? How about putting yourself in the shoe of the tenant after receiving a 2-month notice? oh wait, you can't because you have never heard of the a word called empathy.

SoNaRWaVe 11-14-2015 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvey Specter (Post 8698783)
Another piece of advice I'll throw out there is if you buy a property and it's tenanted, ALWAYS get the seller to evict the tenant and only take possession after the tenet has left. Never buy a property with a tenant, even if the rent is good, because there's people out there that will list properties that have a bad tenant and want to dump their problems on someone else.

I just closed a deal for a condo in YT and forced the seller to evict the tenant, seller wasn't happy but I told my Realtor I would walk away from my offer if the seller didn't comply. Seller agreed and now I was told by my Realtor the tenant is pissed so it could have been a problematic tenant.

this could have been all be avoided if the landlord was transparent with the tenant. not mandatory, but would have been courteous. my landlord told me in summer of 2014 that the place would be up for sale and that we would be given 2 months notice when it happens. which falls in line with RTA rules. got the 2 month notice of march 2015. we were ready. win win for landlord, us, and new owner.

your situation makes me think that the tenant was never given the heads up nor properly received 2 months notice. and just because you have experience, it could still be shitty advice.

murd0c 11-14-2015 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8698664)
Dinosaur is his GF.
Guy you are referring to is Gridlock

Here's one of their stickied post.
http://www.revscene.net/forums/68903...-landlord.html

I think Dino had a bigger dick then Gridlock

Harvey Specter 11-14-2015 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoNaRWaVe (Post 8698891)
this could have been all be avoided if the landlord was transparent with the tenant. not mandatory, but would have been courteous. my landlord told me in summer of 2014 that the place would be up for sale and that we would be given 2 months notice when it happens. which falls in line with RTA rules. got the 2 month notice of march 2015. we were ready. win win for landlord, us, and new owner.

your situation makes me think that the tenant was never given the heads up nor properly received 2 months notice. and just because you have experience, it could still be shitty advice.

Two month notice was provided but the back story is the tenant is month to month, has a sweet deal because the seller had no clue on renting his/her unit. Not only is the rent too low for the current market and for the unit but the seller provides free cable and pays for a parking spot so I assume the tenant thought I would take over the month to month agreement. This is probably the real reason why the tenant is pissed.

Mr.HappySilp 11-14-2015 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Johnson (Post 8698874)
No shit the tenant is pissed. What else do you think would have happened? How about putting yourself in the shoe of the tenant after receiving a 2-month notice? oh wait, you can't because you have never heard of the a word called empathy.

If you is given 2 month notice there no reason for him to be piss. He was told he needs to move, it was well within the rules and he had plenty of time to prepare.

Acura604 11-16-2015 11:06 AM

same situation ...similar...tenant has some 'personal' issues that erupt in moments of rage. Friday night, I decided to stay in and chill with a movie...heard all this yelling and doors slamming, smashing from the suite.... decided to txt the tenant to give him 24hrs notice of inspection. Sunday 11am, went to check it out - in a fit of rage from that Friday night, he punched in the bathroom shower tiles...claiming he 'slipped'. Here's the thing, if I wasn't home and didn't hear all the commotion to warrant suspicion, I wouldn't have done the inspection and chances are he would not repair it. I've issued an ultimatum for immediate repair or face 30-day eviction due to damage to property. his left hand was all bandaged up and there were drops of blood on the laminate flooring in the living room.

he has issues with his wife - separated - and I'm sure there's some crazy stuff going on but so far in his 'fits' of rage:

1. broke shower door - I fixed it at my expense.
2. broke washroom towel rack - snapped it in 2 and still not fixed.
3. punched a small hole/dented the drywall again in the washroom.
4. the tiles as above.


once it is fixed, I will be forcing him out and no longer renting .

http://i.imgur.com/RoPdQtJ.jpg

meme405 11-16-2015 12:46 PM

^Why is he always in the washroom when he has these fits?

Buddy trying to pass some kidney stones?

swfk 11-16-2015 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by meme405 (Post 8699555)
^Why is he always in the washroom when he has these fits?

Buddy trying to pass some kidney stones?

Lots of thinking going on in the bathroom

https://blog.bufferapp.com/why-we-ha...-of-creativity

TouringTeg 11-16-2015 07:46 PM

Acura604: I can't blame you for wanting to stop renting out your unit.

Some friends of mine have a basement suite and had three bad tenants in a row. They did very thorough background checks etc. One of my friends is RCMP which makes zero difference. Tenants have a lot of power. Things can go sideways in a hurry causing you a lot of stress, time and money. There is a reason why some suggest paying a tenant to leave.

My friends decided to turn their suite into a man cave / pool room with a guest room.

meowjinboo 11-16-2015 08:28 PM

man im scared to be renting a place.

I`m moving out soon and I`ve been living int he same place for the last 15 years. D:

Harvey Specter 11-16-2015 08:38 PM

The pool of tenants that want to rent basement suites in Vancouver is getting worst. In fact, I would stay away from renting out a basement suite unless you're 100% certain about the person that's moving in because it's one thing having a bad tenant say in a condo but it's another when you actually live in the same house.

And there is quicker way to proceed to the order of possession if you feel like you or your family is immediate danger. This falls under "special circumstances" and you can bypass giving a notice and go directly to dispute resolution but you will still need a paper trail and proof that the tenant is a danger to you or your family.

Good luck and hopefully the person moves out without going through the BS process.

danned 11-16-2015 09:47 PM

especially people from china
talk loud, yell loud, (anytime, night or day) don`t feel like civilized at all

Manic! 11-16-2015 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by danned (Post 8699733)
especially people from china
talk loud, yell loud, (anytime, night or day) don`t feel like civilized at all

Still way better than some drug dealer or addict.

Mr.HappySilp 11-16-2015 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvey Specter (Post 8699709)
The pool of tenants that want to rent basement suites in Vancouver is getting worst. In fact, I would stay away from renting out a basement suite unless you're 100% certain about the person that's moving in because it's one thing having a bad tenant say in a condo but it's another when you actually live in the same house.

And there is quicker way to proceed to the order of possession if you feel like you or your family is immediate danger. This falls under "special circumstances" and you can bypass giving a notice and go directly to dispute resolution but you will still need a paper trail and proof that the tenant is a danger to you or your family.

Good luck and hopefully the person moves out without going through the BS process.

Depends I guess. We rent to a family of 5 (used to be just3). Mom then had 2 baby. I am sure they are pretty happy with the place since rent is pretty cheap $900 for a 2 bedroom. I am sure sometimes you hear kids yelling and crying but generally well mannered. I doubt they want to move since both parent's don't make a lot of money and need space for the kids toys and they have 2 cars (park on the street). Could we kick them out and increase the rent? Sure we could but we rather deal with a family who lived there for years and pays rent on time and have no complains then risk renting it and be stuck with a bad tenants.

ae101 11-16-2015 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvey Specter (Post 8698815)
Not sure how it's "shitty" advice when I'm talking from experience.

u mean u have been evicted before :troll:

Spoiler!

blkgsr 11-21-2015 09:46 AM

my buddy just had to evict a guy out of his gastown area apartment in the second month for late payment and not responding....punched a hole in the door and left their shit all over the place. my buddy had 10 bags of garbage plus a ton of their expensive this they left behind


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