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09-06-2025, 09:03 AM
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#6551 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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Originally Posted by RabidRat  Lol yeah you'd think the longer you wait, the better stuff becomes, but we're in this bizzaro world where things only get worse. | I would have itched for a G80 if it wasn't so ugly. F80 is gonna stay forever unless I can get my hands on a 911. Quote:
Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD
FWIW, I hate the way F series BMW drive but their Harmon Kardon is quite good compared to G20 and W205- 7 band EQ, 8" subs for low-ish bass.
We didn't touch the setup in the F80 he later got.
My best guess is manufacturers figured out after the W204/F30 that consumers just want a brand and shiny speaker grille.
They could reuse the same speakers with some tuning instead of giving an actual audio upgrade.
W205 Burmester was only a ~1k upgrade from the base audio on C class.
| The HK system in my M3 is terrible imo. It's better than the tinny base Hi-Fi system but the bass is muddy as hell. It gets really loud but everything mid and lower is super muddy.
I sat in a friend's G98 with HK and it sounds so much better than my F80. I don't have any other experiences with BMW HK as our Mini and X3 had the HiFi system, and the X5 has Bowers.
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09-06-2025, 09:36 AM
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#6552 | | Anal Mcgee
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^911s are stupid. Don’t be stupid by association
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09-06-2025, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by EvoFire The HK system in my M3 is terrible imo. It gets really loud but everything mid and lower is super muddy. | That's a lot more than you can say for the HK in G05 - anything above like 60% volume and the distortion is immediately noticeable.
It might actually be the first time I've actually heard distortion in a car lol.
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09-06-2025, 05:42 PM
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#6554 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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neue klasse looks quite promising, do like the throwback pig nose to the 02 series
can't wait for wagon form!
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09-06-2025, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RabidRat Lol yeah you'd think the longer you wait, the better stuff becomes, but we're in this bizzaro world where things only get worse. | relieability aside, i think toyota are the only ones making nicer looking cars gen after gen.... kias are pretty nice too.
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09-07-2025, 07:26 AM
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#6556 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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09-07-2025, 07:58 AM
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#6557 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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Originally Posted by red kryptonite relieability aside, i think toyota are the only ones making nicer looking cars gen after gen.... kias are pretty nice too. | whaaa... I must have been brain washed... but I honestly think the Hyundai Line Up LOOKS prerry solid...
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09-07-2025, 10:44 AM
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#6558 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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not feeling the retro LED squares on all the recent hyundais and while i dont like the overall vehicle body shape of the EV6, the facelift with praying mantis DRL is probably my fave current light signature  | |
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09-08-2025, 06:57 PM
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Hyundai is pretty solid other than the Santa Fe and ionic 9
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09-09-2025, 01:18 AM
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#6560 | | Lomac owned my ass at least once
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^^ it's all fun and games until your engine seizes or battery scratched
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09-09-2025, 06:44 AM
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#6561 | | RabidMod
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Does that still happen?
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09-09-2025, 09:39 AM
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There's very little you can buy from them that won't leave you stranded, explode or set on fire.
List of models without a major recall since 2022 is pretty short:
- Elantra N 6MT
- Sonata
- Venue
Recent recalls, US only numbers include:
up to 2026 EVs pop their module that charges the 12v battery, 145k cars
up to 2025 DCTs have hella issues, 100k
up to 2024 Palisade, Tucson, G80/G70/GV80 have fire risk, 1.7M
up to 2023 Santa Fe catch fire from trailer hitch harness, 850k
up to 2023 elantra seatbelts explode, 240k
up to 2023 elantra hybrids have unintended acceleration, 40k
up to 2022 CVTs got recalled
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09-09-2025, 11:17 AM
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#6563 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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| https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/lexus/43234416.html
New hybrid, IS500 gone.
New interior, LFA tach gone.
New adaptive suspension and steering.
New hands free self drive under 40kmh.
Still no fuel economy, power tailgate, heated steering wheel, nor heads up display.
Same shitty 6AT with transmission hump.
Same 2GR with slow 8AT.
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09-09-2025, 11:25 AM
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This must be celebratory news for you! More Toyota hate! 
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09-09-2025, 12:35 PM
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#6565 | | Anal Mcgee
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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/lexus/43234416.html
New hybrid, IS500 gone.
New interior, LFA tach gone.
New adaptive suspension and steering.
New hands free self drive under 40kmh.
Still no fuel economy, power tailgate, heated steering wheel, nor heads up display. Same shitty 6AT with transmission hump.
Same 2GR with slow 8AT. | this is unacceptable. its basically a lousy facelift. ugh stupid. at least throw in the TT v6. 
Thanks for ruining the front of it. way too much negative space with the huge and empty front grille. nothing to break up apart the boring face. 
old one was 1000% better looking
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09-09-2025, 12:46 PM
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#6566 | | Performance Moderator
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Rearend looks a lot better, that saggy ass look of the last gen was horrible.
That said this car needed to stop existing 2 refreshes ago. Needs a complete redesign, different drivetrain or at the very least transmission options... and interior space is abysmal.
I took a recent IS300 AWD out for a test drive prior to moving to Calgary and walked away almost laughing if I hadn't been in shock at how ridiculously bad it was.
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09-09-2025, 12:53 PM
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Whoa - who is buying IS and Crown?
How did Toyota sell 20k of each?
BMW moved 90k 3/4 series, with 20k of them electric last year.
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09-09-2025, 01:04 PM
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#6568 | | Anal Mcgee
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for the IS; everyone named ngyuen in the bay area ?
for the crown; bcrdukes and my coworker whos big on big sedans.
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09-09-2025, 01:14 PM
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So the Crown appeals to poor gay guys? I guess something had to replace the Chrysler Sebring convertible.
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09-09-2025, 01:28 PM
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I know Avis bought a ton of them to replace their Chrysler 300 and G70.
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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD I know Avis bought a ton of them to replace their Chrysler 300 and G70. | The Crown?! No way! 
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09-09-2025, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD Whoa - who is buying IS and Crown?
How did Toyota sell 20k of each?
BMW moved 90k 3/4 series, with 20k of them electric last year. | Bring on the Toyota hate!!!!!
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09-09-2025, 02:15 PM
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#6573 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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Originally Posted by Badhobz this is unacceptable. its basically a lousy facelift. ugh stupid. at least throw in the TT v6.
Thanks for ruining the front of it. way too much negative space with the huge and empty front grille. nothing to break up apart the boring face.
old one was 1000% better looking | The refresh front looks like a Camry, what are they gonna start merging the two brands?
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09-09-2025, 02:18 PM
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#6574 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes The Crown?! No way! | Yep it’s the default Premuim class option in US if your branch is big enough to carry them.
If they’re smaller, they’ll upgrade you Luxury class: a G70 2.5/3.3 or a CT4.
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09-09-2025, 02:20 PM
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#6575 | | Need to Shave n Shower, but I CANT STOP POSTING ON RS
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Originally Posted by dark0821 whaaa... I must have been brain washed... but I honestly think the Hyundai Line Up LOOKS prerry solid... | That's because Hyundai has cars designed by these guys. Just look at the list of cars they have designed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Schreyer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luc_Donckerwolke
Kia has this Lebanese Canadian. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karim_Habib
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