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Cop pulls me over, tells me what I did, I tell him I honestly didn't see it. "Have you been drinking?" "I had a couple beers at dinner but that was at around 9pm." So he reads me the thing and tells me I need to do a breathalyzer. I blow a 0. "By the way, I like your car!" (pointing at my Golf) "I like the OEM-plus look you VW guys do." "YES. Thank you! That's exactly what I was going for!" We talk for a bit about cars...he says he's a RS lurker and has been to our meets before. Says thanks for not lying to him about having beers for dinner. 90% of people lie to him in this situation. "Well, I really didn't have a reason to." "Okay, have a good night!" <fist bump> and I'm on my way. He could've given me a ticket for running the red but didn't. Now, I could've been a dick like these guys citing my rights and whatever... |
Seriously, I haven't gotten a ticket in the longest time. It's not that I haven't been pulled over but I treat every cop like they're just doing their job. I mean, I did something stupid and I deserved a ticket but you're much more likely to get a ticket if you're being a douche about it. Border cops I sort of get because most of the time they're just preventing Asian aunties from bringing weird foods into the country but DUI? Are we really against cops stopping drunk drivers? |
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"Where are you going?" "Who were you with" etc. These are the types of questions I would certainly think are questions that would violate my rights. As for a DUI road block, the Supreme Court of Canada has ruled that they are a violation of Section 8. However, it may be a justified intrusion under Section 1. As for the U.S., the backdrop for most of the videos we see online, there are at least 10 States that have declared road blocks to be a Constitutional infringement. I think you're mistaking "what I [think]" and "what is the [law]." Even if the law said that a DUI road block was UNCONSTITUTIONAL, that doesn't mean that I agree that it's an unnecessary intrusion and a burden on my night. However, what violates a constitutional right is not something "personal," it either does or it doesn't and in the scenarios we are discussing, by law, rights are violated by yes, even simple, polite questions. Above is a link to a video of a man being pulled over in Vancouver. This is not an example of a provoker who goes around looking for police officers to troll. Is this a violation of any rights? |
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"I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, FACIST PIG!" "...okay, I just asked 'How are you?' but sure..." |
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As I said earlier unless you plan on answering with "I am just heading home from a bank robbery", they don't give a fuck the answer you are going to give. It's just a more sincere question than asking "Have you had anything to drink tonight" 1000 times in a night. The cops are just trying to get a smell of your breath, they really don't give a fuck to hear your life story. The funny part is answering with "I don't want to answer that question" Raise more suspicion than answering the damn question. Like I said, how often are you driving home from killing your Ex-Wife and you get stopped at a road block? Why are you so scared of answering where you are coming from? |
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I am not sharing my personal beliefs here. I'm simply stating how the law is set forth. I live the type of lifestyle where I do not need to worry about anything I say to an officer who pulls me over or stops me during a road block. I don't drink so I don't worry about road blocks either. Never have I been breathalyzed or had to do a sobriety test and I likely never will have to. I am simply speaking from a legal stand point of what is permitted in the eyes of the law and what is questionable. You and I for the most part are seeing eye to eye but I think you're getting side tracked when I start talking about the legal aspect of road blocks and whether they infringe and rights. Underscore however seems to have the ignorant viewpoint of if someone disagrees with police tactics, he must therefore hate blue. It's important to remember that something can violate your constitutional rights and still be permitted and justified under the law. |
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Fuck you Bram you ugly piece of shit. You are nothing but an internet warrior. You've been doing this for a pretty long time now too, so I've decided to create an account just for you buddy. I'm sure you don't want anything to happen to your precious Brianna right? So treat people with some decency on the forums and stop this macho ignorant attitude. |
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Hypocrite much? |
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