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Old 03-31-2016, 04:56 PM   #1
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Protex paint protection?

Looking to get paint protection done and came across "Protex paint protection", has anyone dealt with them? And who does Xpel locally?
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A few guys were recommending opticoating in here:

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If you want it done well definitely see Ken at Autowerkes. It ain't cheap but every time I've dropped in he's got another 100k+ car that he's putting a clear bra on. He does amazing work
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LOL He's doubled his price though

It's now:
SMALL CAR OR SUV — 1195
MEDIUM/LARGE CAR OR SUV — 1295
LARGE SUV OR DUALLY PICKUP — 1495

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Ken's prices are on his website. For Opticoat it's:

Small vehicles ( Subaru BRZ etc ) $550
Medium vehicles ( BMW 3,5 series, most SUVs ) $595
Large SUVs $650

My brother paid $595 for his brand new CX-5 to be done up, I'd expect the Mustang to be considered medium sized too.
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Lol, that's what I realized when I visited his site.
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LOL He's doubled his price though

It's now:
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Yeah it's gotten steep. When I last talked to him in September he said it's actually the people who make the coatings that set the prices, that's out of his control. Not saying his prices haven't gotten higher on top of that but it's not him just doubling the price and pocketing it all.
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i did the full front on my NSX with Luke and protex. he did a great job and i am very happy with it.
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Looking to get something like opti coat done too. Any recommendation in the 600-700 price range.
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opticoat is just a glorified wax. i'd go the protex route anyday w/ the clear bra. i've personally seen protex's work, 110% everytime. doesn't necessarily have to be protex obviously, as i've heard they're pretty expensive, but with that said, people pay a LOT more than they should for opticoat. it's all a gimmick, but there's nothing gimmicky about a layer of physical film across the entire car

opticoat is just a brand fyi. the actual substance inside the bottle can be purchase at lordco under a variety of different names (diamond kote, etc). the application process is the exact same as a carnauba wax. the effects are the exact same as a carnauba wax. it lasts for the same amount of time as carnauba wax, and needs to be reapplied at the same intervals. at the end of the day paying $600-700 for it as absolutely absurd
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Spent some time reading reviews and watching videos online it seems like Xpel is the way to go and the best option for complete protection.

I spoke with Luke at Protex and their protection product is basically the Xpel ultimate but rebranded for Canada and with a longer warranty (10 years instead of 7). Pricing is pretty good for frontal protection and rocker panels. I did e-mail another Vancouver shop and they quoted me $6000, Protex is much cheaper.
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$6000! wow.

So is opti coat similar to the paint protection stuff that stealership pushes on you? If So i can basically get it at cost with hook ups.
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^ it's exactly the same. again it's listed under different brand names (opticoat diamond kote) but it's all the sane
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I used gtechniq csl+exov2 on the Z.

Haven't washed the car in 3 months. Hosing off doesnt count.

Applied it to customer cars a while back, and they haven't called me for paint correction since. Which sucks for me. Great for them.

I also didnt charge nearly as much as Autowerks, but I dont depend on it for a living.

It's the typical 9h ceramic coating, but it's the best one I've used, and would recommend.

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Anyone with experience on Ceramic Pro?

I've talked to a couple shops, I got pricing of $800-1200 for the basic 1 coat, and then roughly $500 per additional coat of Ceramic Pro.
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opticoat is just a glorified wax. i'd go the protex route anyday w/ the clear bra. i've personally seen protex's work, 110% everytime. doesn't necessarily have to be protex obviously, as i've heard they're pretty expensive, but with that said, people pay a LOT more than they should for opticoat. it's all a gimmick, but there's nothing gimmicky about a layer of physical film across the entire car

opticoat is just a brand fyi. the actual substance inside the bottle can be purchase at lordco under a variety of different names (diamond kote, etc). the application process is the exact same as a carnauba wax. the effects are the exact same as a carnauba wax. it lasts for the same amount of time as carnauba wax, and needs to be reapplied at the same intervals. at the end of the day paying $600-700 for it as absolutely absurd
Uh Opti Coat is nothing like a caranuba wax. Show me a wax that will last you 5+ years, or even still be on the car after hitting a touch less car wash. Show me a caranuba wax that will let a bird bomb sit on it for a week and not etch the paint. The only way to remove Opti Coat or similar brands is a cut polish with a buffer. I can remove a caranuba with some rubbing alcohol, or just wait 6 months and it will remove itself.

If by gimmick you mean it won't protect you from rock chips sure. Generally you would opti coat over your xpel anyways to protect it from the elements. But it sure isn't the same as a wax, or that cheap shit the dealership puts on it.
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^ it's exactly the same. again it's listed under different brand names (opticoat diamond kote) but it's all the sane
Actually it's not. Diamond Cote is pretty much the same as any polymer sealant that you can purchase at Lordco, Canadian Tire etc. The coatings we install are completely different in that they are for the most part silica based, ( Opti Coat is a resin ) and are will indeed last for years whereas the polymer sealants will last for 3-4 months on average. As for the price increases mentioned, yes they have gone up substantially. Unfortunately the manufacturers of pretty much all of the coatings have set MAP ( minimum ) pricing that we as installers have to abide by. The increase is not all profit. My cost per application of Opti Coat has increased over 1000% in the last 3 years.
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Pretty interested in doing this but looks like prices are all very steep now. Has anyone been to any shops recently for one of these good coating for under $1,000?
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Pretty interested in doing this but looks like prices are all very steep now. Has anyone been to any shops recently for one of these good coating for under $1,000?
how bad is your paint? maybe you could get someone like ken to do paint correction (if you can't do that yourself) and then try just buying the opticoat from ken and do it yourself... i didn't find it easy though because i don't have a garage to work in and doing it in direct sunlight is a bitch

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LOTS and LOTS of complaints about the Protex. they have the account for Porsche Centre Langley and probably 2/3 of the cars they do have to go back, and have parts redone over and over. Many people end up ripping it off, and going to Ken at Autowerkes in the end anyways.
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have anyone try Anthony at 5 star tint?
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friend of mine had his GT4 done at 5 star. Is getting it removed, and redone at Autowerkes as well.
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how bad is your paint? maybe you could get someone like ken to do paint correction (if you can't do that yourself) and then try just buying the opticoat from ken and do it yourself... i didn't find it easy though because i don't have a garage to work in and doing it in direct sunlight is a bitch

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It's actually a brand new car. Sort of dirty now after 3 weeks. Ken seems to do a great job but prices have been jacked up quite a bit.
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Got my car done with cquartz last summer and it still looks amazing.
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It's actually a brand new car. Sort of dirty now after 3 weeks. Ken seems to do a great job but prices have been jacked up quite a bit.
If you check out my website, we have coatings starting at $695. We have CQuartz Classic ( 18-24 months ) starting at $695. Its a great looking coating and has really good durability. Considering a regular sealant would have to be reapplied 3-4x a year at $200 a pop, its good value as well.
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