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twitchyzero 04-19-2016 03:41 PM

BlackBerry & Rogers allegedly allowed RCMP to intercept messages
 
Quote:

“We are indeed in a dark place when companies put their reputations above the greater good,” said Chen
BlackBerry CEO says tech firms should comply with lawful access requests - The Globe and Mail

http://i.imgur.com/W4stg3y.gif

original article

https://news.vice.com/article/exclus...yption-key-how

RRxtar 04-19-2016 04:18 PM

as an exclusive blackberry user from 2007 until 3 weeks ago (and only because there are no hardware choices), blackberry seems to be the definition of how to do everything exactly how to alienate customers and it just keeps rolling along.

yray 04-19-2016 06:20 PM

RIP blackberry

gonna short the fuck out of them tmr

vitaminG 04-19-2016 06:25 PM

they had a key for BBM not BES

Nlkko 04-19-2016 06:25 PM

"100mil a year ez" - John Chen.

twitchyzero 04-21-2016 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vitaminG (Post 8748601)
they had a key for BBM not BES

yes BES was not compromised

it's unclear how said key was obtained...BB hasn't confirmed anything directly and the court document only suggests RCMP somehow got access. Whether or not they still have access or if BB has changed the key is a mystery.

Are there many businesses left that are strictly using BB?

smoothie. 04-21-2016 08:49 AM

https://media.giphy.com/media/WRdmOfjRmRRjW/giphy.gif

BYE FELICIA

CCA-Dave 04-21-2016 04:20 PM

Quote:

“Not that we can crack every phone, but from the standpoint of BlackBerry’s philosophy, policy and principles, we will help whenever there is a formal subpoena that comes to us and we have been doing it for many, many, years,” said Chen.

“But since we don’t have a backdoor and since the encryption technology has now gotten to a point where we may, or may not be able to penetrate it, we will have the same difficulties, but we won’t have the same attitude about it and it won’t be front page news.”
Just curious, what's the problem with this? This is no different than the RCMP going to my landlord for access to my property with a legal subpoena or warrant. As I understand it, in order to intercept BBM messages you need to have access from Blackberry for each individual device. So while these organized crime lords were compromised, my Z30 or Passport can't be (without further help from BB). Perhaps I'm naive?

If I'm correct, though, I really don't have an issue with it.

I would, however, take issue if the access provided to the RCMP allowed them to check any phone, at any time, without a warrant.

knight604 04-21-2016 04:29 PM

Ok lets clear the air with this, bait and switch article.

Nobody uses BBM anymore or PIN-PIN messaging and blackberry never said it was secure, the messages are scrambled though. So if they had the key, they can decrypt the messages.

BIS: https://web.archive.org/web/20100125...itsb57-e-2.jpg

BES: https://web.archive.org/web/20100125...itsb57-e-1.jpg

twitchyzero 04-21-2016 10:38 PM

BBM was very popular in 2010 when this RCMP project started.
just because it wasn't secure doesn't mean the authorities should snoop around and try to downplay it when exposed.
If your doors are unlocked does that automatically mean anyone and everyone's invited?

I just hope they went through tons of dick pics during the search :lol


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