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I wasn't really referring to PEDs, but more of the practice with scooping young children up by the masses -- often from smaller, poorer, and more remote villages -- and sending them off to children athlete training camps, away from family etc.
I don't particularly want to shxt on China too much in this thread -- or at least, I don't feel like doing so now. But if you do a little research, you'll see why China excels in certain type of Olympic sports.
The irony is, hardly any of the sports that China excels in is commercially lucrative. But what's what your old school authoritarian governments do -- spend millions on programs that prop up the country's "image" to pump out a selected few elite athletes while ignoring the welfare of the masses...
common practice with ex communist countries, pretty much every ex soviet bloc countries used the exact same practices.
plus if you asked some poor ass farmer kid would he rather be a farmer for the rest of his life toiling in obscurity vs an olympic gold medalist...
oly lifting is becoming a lil more lucrative every year with the popularity of crossfit in north america too! you'll see many athletes like klokov touring north america giving out seminars and stuff
plus if you asked some poor ass farmer kid would he rather be a farmer for the rest of his life toiling in obscurity vs an olympic gold medalist...
^^ Yes, of sure. The old standard ex soviet bloc practice. With Soviet Union being the ideological mentor for Communist China, of course China is doing what his old master taught him.
The obvious problem is, only 1 in a thousand (or less) can meet the cut for Olympic caliber. The rest of the children more or less get sifted out at the provincial or municipal level. If you are lucky enough, you can still land a trainer job back in the same national / provincial training machinery, and you'd still have what we conceive as a "regular" working career. If you don't make the cut and you didn't land yourself a position back in the training machinery, however, you are effectively stuck without any real transferable life skills and your life is fxxked because you don't know anything else.
But alas, I am not really here to shxt on China this time. If anything, I should really be shxtting on the Rio Olympics instead.
on that topic i've watched and listened to a few pod casts in the past month or so discussing PED's and the olympics.
As mentioned, these eastern block countries, especially the USSR had some really fucked up practices when it came to their athletes
it's documented in the kind of prime years of the soviet power, their top-star gymnasts, mostly ages 12-16 were all impregnated by their trainers 2 months prior to the olympics to greatly improve their testosterone and whatever other chemical advantages you gain.
Funny enough that edge was JUST enough to win, as i think they beat out china, or another large state in the gymnastics competitions by literal fractions of points
then of course they all went home and had abortions lol
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The obvious problem is, only 1 in a thousand (or less) can meet the cut for Olympic caliber. The rest of the children more or less get sifted out at the provincial or municipal level. If you are lucky enough, you can still land a trainer job back in the same national / provincial training machinery, and you'd still have what we conceive as a "regular" working career. If you don't make the cut and you didn't land yourself a position back in the training machinery, however, you are effectively stuck without any real transferable life skills and your life is fxxked because you don't know anything else.
uh your understanding is still stuck in 1990s and earlier I see. nowadays, most professional athletes in china are from wealthy families or at very least moderate middle class families. Gone are the days where families send kids off due to poverty like u mentioned.
The obvious problem is, only 1 in a thousand (or less) can meet the cut for Olympic caliber. The rest of the children more or less get sifted out at the provincial or municipal level. If you are lucky enough, you can still land a trainer job back in the same national / provincial training machinery, and you'd still have what we conceive as a "regular" working career. If you don't make the cut and you didn't land yourself a position back in the training machinery, however, you are effectively stuck without any real transferable life skills and your life is fxxked because you don't know anything else.
uh your understanding is still stuck in 1990s and earlier I see. nowadays, most professional athletes in china are from wealthy families or at very least moderate middle class families. Gone are the days where families send kids off due to poverty like u mentioned.
I grew up with one of the girls who's pair qualified for Rio (Broder/Valjas). Broder's from Victoria (#1 in photo) and won a CIS Championship with UBC. I'll be cheering hard for her and hope you all will too!
uh your understanding is still stuck in 1990s and earlier I see. nowadays, most professional athletes in china are from wealthy families or at very least moderate middle class families. Gone are the days where families send kids off due to poverty like u mentioned.
So what you are saying is that the Olympic process just like everything else in China is corrupt and only people with money get in.
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uh your understanding is still stuck in 1990s and earlier I see. nowadays, most professional athletes in china are from wealthy families or at very least moderate middle class families. Gone are the days where families send kids off due to poverty like u mentioned.
For someone who has said:
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Originally Posted by Gululu
Communist Party has achieved so much it is a gift to human civilization. Xi also announced pledge return to Marxist roots.
Let's just say I tend to take things you say with a grain of salt. A HUGE grain of salt.
on that topic i've watched and listened to a few pod casts in the past month or so discussing PED's and the olympics.
As mentioned, these eastern block countries, especially the USSR had some really fucked up practices when it came to their athletes
it's documented in the kind of prime years of the soviet power, their top-star gymnasts, mostly ages 12-16 were all impregnated by their trainers 2 months prior to the olympics to greatly improve their testosterone and whatever other chemical advantages you gain.
Funny enough that edge was JUST enough to win, as i think they beat out china, or another large state in the gymnastics competitions by literal fractions of points
then of course they all went home and had abortions lol
Impreganate athelete to win?? Where is the source on this?
Impreganate athelete to win?? Where is the source on this?
Sorry it seems like with quick search it was actually the East German teams which were doing this. May have been USSR as well but just quick Wikipedia search points towards east Germany.
I originally heard it from a few different pod casts with PED experts
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it's documented in the kind of prime years of the soviet power, their top-star gymnasts, mostly ages 12-16 were all impregnated by their trainers 2 months prior to the olympics to greatly improve their testosterone and whatever other chemical advantages you gain.
lol why would they do that when they could just dose them with turinabol like everyone else
The communists did some nasty shit to their athletes, especially the women who are obviously affected much more when you load them up with male hormones.