Tire Mountain - aka tire grip - To be safe or not to be - roadandtrack.com Came across this article about 2 different drivers of the same car during a track day. 1 was a "safe" driver and 1 was pushing the limits of the car's tires. Read about the results below and what it means for tire temperatures: Quote:
So, is this relevant with everyday driving? I would say, more often that you think, in some challenging routes and long road-trips, and even long stretches of highways (if you are going at excessive speeds). Discuss! Edit: As per my post (Post #9) below, I changed my opinion 2 days ago. |
For everyday driving, when you follow traffic laws and all posted signs and have safe to drive tires, you should never be near tire slippage. Of course on a race track in race cars, there are two types of drivers: One, smooth is fast; two, power is everything. By the way, don't believe everything you see in movies... http://www.fullredneck.com/wp-conten...s-Memes-16.jpg |
Tl;dr - if you've seen Star in a Reasonably Priced Car on Top Gear a few times you probably already know this. |
None of this really applies to street driving. For starters, unless your tires are grossly underinflated, they should never get to that point where they are overheated and greasy. No real point to discuss. Where's that fail button again? |
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When I say "everyday" driving, I don't mean "street driving" as in traffic-stop-go driving in cities. I meant "challenging routes" or road-trips that are meant just for driving (the journey, not the destination). I have been in such road-trips that had the sole purpose of driving on specific roads, with a lot of curves, hair-pin turns, elevation changes, etc. that goes on for 20 to 40km. |
I would still say the above article is irrelevant for the "challenging routes" / spirited driving type of situation. At the end of the day, you are still driving on public roads, with the possibility of having other drivers involved. Road conditions and the surrounding situations are still unpredictable. What if there is a sudden pot hole on the ground? What if a deer -- or worse, an elk -- runs out in front of your car? I don't pretend to be a saint when I am driving on public roads, but I never drive stupid fast to the point where the stuff they talked about in the article becomes relevant. The places to do that are in a private, controlled setting. Driving training clinics, autox, lapping days, etc. Those are the situations when this tire mountain talk becomes really relevant. |
Did autocross for two years and stopped. Never been to track day till this year. I would drive s2s and Marine drive, Dewdney Trunk, etc once in a while sort of spiritedly. I thought I knew tire trip and boy was I wrong. You can't reach anywhere near the top this tire mountain until you're on a track. Unless you have zero care of others on the road and you're a wreckless nut job. |
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I just had my first trackday ever with the RS/TSS guys down at the Ridge in July (sorry to everyone in the B group that I blocked). It was hard. Had a lot of trouble. Even went straight off the track after turn 3 once. Interesting when the article discusses: Quote:
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Informative post and good topic to discuss if it's for racing on the track. But lack of common sense if you're seriously asking if this is applicable on your spirited driving through the mountain passes... And no one's saying you must drive like you're only doing A to B commuting. There's a difference between going for a spirited run at 75% safely vs 95-100% on a public road. |
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Quote: You are correct on these points. The article 99% applies to the track. |
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