Yes and yes.

Because if they were to enter the US with a Canadian passport (if they had one) they would be in for an asshchewing session with US CBP.

US law never prohibits nor allows dual citizenship.

I know that Brits have to surrender their Brit licence as I have had many who were getting their BC DL and had to do the class 5 road test.---most recent was last week.

I remember ICBC agent asked me if I had another license when I was renewing my BC DL. I said yes and I literally expected ERT to storm the ICBC office from the way this guy started freaking out. He demanded I surrender it and started to raise his voice, called his manager over and explained that yes I do have one, I dont use it here, I dont even have it with me in the country...

Got my licensed renewed 5 minutes later and was on my way....

now the question is are you a PR of canada OP and why can you not use a IDL for your job?

vast majority of jobs will accept a IDL as a valid DL.

Example we work at a shop we have a aussie who came to work with us and hes on a IDL

Why not? It has the same risks as someone having a license from another province.

I believe they do, but only with countries that have a known equivalent license (ICBC should have to confirm the license is valid with that country as well). Given that there are nearly 200 countries in the world I don't expect ICBC to be aware of the testing procedures used in every single one and know whether those tests are equivalent to a BC test or not.

We have enough shitty drivers here as it is, if people could just swap over any old license then someone who couldn't pass the BC test could just get a fake license from some random ass country, tell ICBC it's legit and swap it for a real BC license.

The point is that the law says foreign DLS will be surrendered when you are applying for a bc dl...t doesn't say only surrender the ones the law in BC recognizes.

I'm not saying you're wrong but what are you basing this on? I only ask because my mom has Canadian/US Dual Citizenship. My Grandmother was a US Citizen, my mother was born in Canada and lived in the US for 4 years as a kid but has spent the majority of her time here. She didn't become a US Citizen until she was 50 years old. Since obtaining it she's traveled to the US with her Canadian Passport many times (She has both) and never had an issue. What you're suggesting has not been my mothers experience at all.

Her NZ license is valid till 2020. Its not like anything would have changed if ICBC took it away. She still can legally drive in NZ with her NZ license. ICBC doesnt notify your home country that they took your license.

To me this is one the dumbest laws ICBC has. She travels between countries holding both a CDN and NZ citizenship.

ICBC also demands that if you are living in Canada longer than 6 months, you must get a BC Driver's licence. The hard part is if you are going through immigration, where it can take years to become a PR.

My wife went through all this same BS about taking the licence etc. At the time, we needed her licence to complete her immigration process as it was one of the two remaining valid documents, so she was able to keep it.

We went through more BS in that her country's licence was issued for 50 years - yes, they don't believe in bureaucratic money scams like 5 year renewals. Her licence had three languages on it, including French. Their only two 'official interpreters' for her language had not been heard from in many months and they did not want to accept the French 'Valid until', even though hey - it's one of our official languages.

ICBC's initial rebuttal was: "How do we know that this doesn't say that you have had your licence revoked for 50 years?" Yeah, when I got to spoke to the manager I asked them how many countries that he knows of that issues a licence to say that you don't have a licence? And besides, it says it's valid right there in three other languages. He had a mush more level head and accepted her licence, as I had mentioned that the Federal government has accepted it to allow her to become a citizen.

So even after supplying documents that showed my wife had gone 15 years without any accidents or claims - all officially translated by her embassy into English, the same woman that initially didn't accept her licence also wouldn't give her the ten year clear status because 'she didn't want to'. I get it that there are laws to sustain for the better of safety etc - but at the same time, there are some people making calls at ICBC that can also mess with people's livelihoods - and non discriminate laws should apply to them as well.

/rant

As a matter of interest, did she tell ICBC that she had an active NZ licence when she applied for her BC one. IF she did, the law does not permit her to legally have a BC licence AND her NZ one. If she lives in BC for more than 3 months she must get a BC DL....
There is a limit for using your New Zealand driver licence and IDP

All countries have limits on how long you can use your New Zealand driver licence or IDP before you must get a local driver licence. In most countries, you’ll need to get a local licence if you are staying for over 12 months.
From the NZ Transport website...

Intially they made her surrender her NZ license when she had a PR. Even after she told them she still needs it cause she was going back to NZ. They issued her BC one but they took her NZ. She went back to NZ to work and was required to have a valid license and in NZ they didnt accept her BC so she got her NZ one again. At the time it was valid till 2020 and she has not surrendered that one.

She doesnt use it here either only her BC one.

This depends if the country they are from allows dual or more citizenships.

A person from Canada applying a US Citizenship can have both. A person from US applying a Canadian Citizenship cannot have both as US does not recognize this and will lose their US Citizenship; an exception would be if it was through marriage.

https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...tionality.html


In a way that's true, but it depends on the border person if they are having a good day or not.

I recall my friend's father who is has both US and Canadian citizen who crossed went to the US border and presented both passports. CBP asked him, which one do you want to be? He answered US, so the officer informed him to just show the US next time and not both.

On the side, if the person has a Nexus or EDL once it is scanned in at the sensor before to approach the booth, the CBP for either Canada or US, will see all the citizenship(s) you have on the computer.

OP is the boogyman #Inb4hall0ween XD

I'm still amazed that you would come onto an open forum and willfully tell others that someone you love is doing something illegal.

We have explained to you what your wife is doing goes against BC Law and invalidates her BCDL. Essentially she is driving here illegally, it doesn't matter how or why she was allowed to do what she did in NZ to get her DL again, BC Law is very clear.

But keep doing what you are doing, and keep telling the world about it, god forbid the day she gets into an accident and someone comes back to what you have written here and her insurance is deemed void. Then you can come on here and cry to us about how unfair it is, and how she is such a good driver, and ICBC is the devil.


This is exactly the reason ICBC doesn't like people having two independent licenses. Because she can go to NZ, get a DUI on her NZ license, rack up 20 speeding tickets, lose her license there, and then come back to BC and continue driving on her BC license as if nothing ever happened. The system ICBC is trying to enforce means that you are accountable for your actions elsewhere once you come back home. AKA you can't go run over someone while driving drunk in a third world country and then come home and continue as if nothing happened.

I highly suggest you and your wife go speak to a lawyer or ICBC to figure out a legal way of her driving in NZ as necessary. I am sure they have a procedure in place for people like you. Or you can continue doing what you are now, but be warned, I am certain they will not look kindly on it if and when they find out. Just looking quickly I am 99% sure your wife should have just gotten and IDP. She would need to renew it every year, but it's 25 bucks.

so the loop hole is this; as per an ICBC rep, go back to the country you got your license and ask for a replacement saying you lost it.

Get it re-issued and you're on your way.
ICBC is the sole provider, I wonder if another province in Canada does the same shit.

That's not a loop hole to the law.

It's a loop hole to get your foreign license back, but you are still breaking BC Law.

Guys this isn't that complicated: If you have a BC License and also are holding another license, you are breaking BC Law. Doesn't matter how or why you have both licenses.

The proper method to drive in another country is to go to BCAA and get an IDP. BCAA issues these to allow residents of BC to drive in other countries legally using the IDP and your BCDL. If you go read the rules that you signed when you got your License, (that yellow slip of paper), it states clearly that while you hold your BCDL you are not permitted to hold a license to any other place.

I think ICBC is where you get IDP. Every time you renew your insurance.

:heckno::heckno::heckno:

IIRC IDP is issued by BCAA

No it's not.

https://www.bcaa.com/trip-planning/i...driving-permit

right over your heads.......

It's a joke about ICBC sticking it to us.


I'll see myself out now.

I'm still amazed this topic is going on.:rukidding:

I had to surrender my Brazilian licence when I moved here.

I currently may or may not have another Brazilian licence, because it's used as a national ID document there.

I have never had a Brazillian....but I hear that they can be itchy... :)

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