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Great68 10-24-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RRxtar (Post 8797273)
the guy at one point did say they werent parking, just trying to turn around, and the guy filming, and that other car were sort of blocking them in.

The article says that they were in the process of getting a ticket for parking in the reserved space.
The guy behind the camera started filming when the douche started getting aggressive to the parking agent.

MrPhreak 10-24-2016 09:18 PM

This doesn't surprise me... lots of people in Chilliwack and smaller interior towns are like this

E-SPEC 10-24-2016 09:18 PM

He is not really racist, just had a bad day thats all. Just like Micheal Richards! haha. Seriously though, that truck better be hidden cause its gonna be a target most likely! The driver is probably sweating bullets.

Gumby 10-24-2016 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by E-SPEC (Post 8797330)
He is not really racist, just had a bad day thats all. Just like Micheal Richards! haha. Seriously though, that truck better be hidden cause its gonna be a target most likely! The driver is probably sweating bullets.

I wonder if the driver & his car will get fucked by a baton!

E-SPEC 10-24-2016 10:45 PM

The passenger sure did, look at the way he walked back to the truck.

twitchyzero 10-24-2016 10:48 PM

ITT: i learned the crown counsel has an actual unit dedicated to hate crimes

wow

wonder how many cases they actual deal with in a year to need to form a team.

inb4 they're fired for failing to meet a balanced budget Kreygasm

Acura604 10-25-2016 06:31 AM

This story is splashed all over town... just a matter of time before this neanderthal is identified and shamed....and most likely fired from his job.

unit 10-25-2016 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by E-SPEC (Post 8797330)
He is not really racist, just had a bad day thats all. Just like Micheal Richards! haha. Seriously though, that truck better be hidden cause its gonna be a target most likely! The driver is probably sweating bullets.

he couldn't be racist, he works with an indian fellow at the scrap yard!

604STIG 10-25-2016 07:49 AM

So apparently the guys in the truck were issued a parking ticket and he started raging on the parking attendant. This by stander saw the incident and started to record the altercation when the attention was turned towards him and that's what we see in the video.

E-SPEC 10-25-2016 08:02 AM

Man who recorded Abbotsford racist rant video felt ?anger,? ?sadness? during altercation - BC | Globalnews.ca

The guy recording was a Lawyer.

GLOW 10-25-2016 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by E-SPEC (Post 8797383)

the twitter comments on that link :lol

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Patton Oswalt ✔ @pattonoswalt
He DOES say, "Have a nice day, sir." Even Canadian racists are very polite. https://twitter.com/bilalspeaks/stat...97004685963266
9:08 AM - 24 Oct 2016
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Tim Heidecker ✔ @timheidecker
That dumb monster truck makes him look comically small. https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/sta...85669789769728
Follow
Seth Rogen ✔ @Sethrogen
@timheidecker @pattonoswalt Abbotsford has a good air show though.
9:27 AM - 24 Oct 2016

StylinRed 10-25-2016 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Acura604 (Post 8797369)
This story is splashed all over town... just a matter of time before this neanderthal is identified and shamed....and most likely fired from his job.

police say they know who he is, so i dont think he has a real job

RRxtar 10-25-2016 09:32 AM

Again, I'm completely against the racist fuck


But this is in a way a form of intellectual bullying. A tougher guy can bully a smaller guy and a smart guy can bully an idiot.

I wouldn't be surprised if the guy filming played the racist like a fool

dhari 10-25-2016 09:49 AM

Enough of this nonsense talking about the person who filmed the incident. This is a video of a person who lost his mind in a racist tirade. The video is helpful in creating dialogue regarding racism and how we can stop it. Don't get sidetracked with this other BS about egging on and ect. I see this same nonsense when a woman is sexually assaulted and people say she shouldn't have been drinking or wearing a short skirt. People will go to any length to avoid discussing the actual issues that are plagued in our society and it makes me sick.

GS8 10-25-2016 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8797202)
I always laugh when people from Vancouver are surprised there are racists in Canada. We as Canadians think that somehow we are different than our American neighbors below us. That is not the case. You would think that the power-base of the KKK is somewhere down South, like Alabama, or Carolina, etc. Meanwhile the fact is the major power-base for the KKK is in Washington and Oregon State, right below us.

Just because we're in the Pacific Northwest does not mean we live in some hippy loveland. These people very much exist here in BC, don't ever doubt that. Fuck that guy anyways, I mean look at him, he can't even walk straight.

Just to add to this:

The more north you go, the more you see it. The more east you go, the more you see it. It becomes more plain as day as the locations become more remote and isolated.

I know it's a topic for another discussion but the reserves up north in all the provinces are a perfect example of why Canada hasn't moved much toward racial acceptance. Big city = Bubble city. We don't see reality outside of our confined world. That's why when we see stories like this one in Abby, then we put our hands up and say in shock that 'this stuff happens??'

Yes it does. Every fucking day...

Take off the rose coloured classes and see all the corners of this country. There's some pretty dark corners out there that aren't being talked about.

And that is a pretty sad fact.

parm104 10-25-2016 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RRxtar (Post 8797402)
Again, I'm completely against the racist fuck


But this is in a way a form of intellectual bullying. A tougher guy can bully a smaller guy and a smart guy can bully an idiot.

I wouldn't be surprised if the guy filming played the racist like a fool

Oh yah, I can totally see how silently standing and documenting someone's irate behaviour can be a form of bullying.

Note to anyone who wants to take a stand against bullying: If you see a bully, walk away and don't look back. Or else you'll become the bully. If you see someone else being wronged or abused, don't get involved, walk away.

E-SPEC 10-25-2016 03:14 PM

I'll say this to that,^^ the threat was gone already at the point of him getting back into his truck. So, was their really a need to continue filming and in a way antagonize the aggressor?

parm104 10-25-2016 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by E-SPEC (Post 8797466)
I'll say this to that,^^ the threat was gone already at the point of him getting back into his truck. So, was their really a need to continue filming and in a way antagonize the aggressor?

Absolutely there is. Why? Because as we've said many times before, we don't know what happened before the recording started, and we don't know what happens after the recording stopped. We only get a small glimpse of the controversial part.

You film an incident like this so you have hard evidence of the events that unfolded. The situation isn't over until one of the two parties leaves the scene. It's quite possible that the same situation would've played out simply by the man watching and observing the scene as it unfolded. Is he in the wrong to stick around and watch as well; to be witness to an act of aggression against a worker? I don't think so but it's a matter of opinion, not fact.

Everyone operates differently and I am the type of person who will intervene in a fight, make sure someone knows they're acting inappropriately in public, addresses someone yelling or being physical to their spouse. If I feel the situation arises to the point where I need some physical evidence of an altercation, I will take my phone out and record it. If the aggressor doesn't like it, all he has to do stop acting a fool and be on his way. If he hasn't done any harm yet, I will stop recording. If it's possible he might still do harm, I won't stop recording until he/she/Caityln Jenner is out of sight.

josayeee 10-25-2016 08:20 PM

In the last few years I came across a man with a similar haircut and clothing style in the North Shore several times. Except this guy was 10 years older. The first time I saw him he was ranting about "F'ing immigrants" to an asian lady. It wasn't the first time I've seen this type of thing there. I moved here from the states in 1990 and I'll admit I had never seen this sort of thing in Vancouver before..or maybe I just wasn't aware of it.

Tapioca 10-25-2016 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by josayeee (Post 8797556)
In the last few years I came across a man with a similar haircut and clothing style in the North Shore several times. Except this guy was 10 years older. The first time I saw him he was ranting about "F'ing immigrants" to an asian lady. It wasn't the first time I've seen this type of thing there. I moved here from the states in 1990 and I'll admit I had never seen this sort of thing in Vancouver before..or maybe I just wasn't aware of it.

It's probably going to become more common going forward, at least for the next little while. The backlash against "immigrants" (or really, non-white people) is happening all over Europe and the United States. It's not hard to see why - previously privileged people (i.e. undereducated white males) are getting left behind in the new socio-economic order. Instead of looking to themselves and figuring out how to survive in a rapidly changing world, they're taking the easy way out and blaming immigrants.

MG1 10-25-2016 10:03 PM

Trust me, racism was always here in BC. Worse then, 'cause nobody reported it and you could get away with so much. Previous generations of immigrants suffered greatly. Words, threats, etc. are nothing compared to back then where it was broken bones and beatings. Humiliation and constant harassment that would make most people of today want to stop living. Feel ashamed to be on the streets. We have come a long way, but racism will never go away. Why? Because it's in us. Racism is everywhere. In every country, nook and cranny. Most decent people suppress it and know it is wrong. Shit happens when it becomes the norm and acceptable.

Harvey Specter 10-25-2016 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 8797574)
It's probably going to become more common going forward, at least for the next little while. The backlash against "immigrants" (or really, non-white people) is happening all over Europe and the United States. It's not hard to see why - previously privileged people (i.e. undereducated white males) are getting left behind in the new socio-economic order. Instead of looking to themselves and figuring out how to survive in a rapidly changing world, they're taking the easy way out and blaming immigrants.

Yup, you nailed it. This is the biggest reason why Trump exists and this was one of the biggest reasons why Brexit happen.

604STIG 10-26-2016 09:37 AM

I agree with some of the comments above, racism has always existed here in Vancouver. I've grown up with it, the only thing different over the past couple of years is that more of it is captured and shared via social media. Those who were never aware of it happening before are just now seeing it or being made aware of it.

parm104 10-26-2016 09:39 AM

20 years ago when a minority walked outside their door, they would look to their left and right and they remained a minority. Today, the image of our society has changed drastically and the minority's face has changed as well. For a race and culture that has been in dominance for some many centuries to suddenly realize that they are no longer the visible majority in their community, it can be seen as very threatening. For any person, regardless of race or culture, a change in the status quo is threatening and scary.

On the topic of Trump, many of Trump's supporters can be seen as having racist undertones and many of them are also poor, working-class people. There may be a connection between these two characteristics. These people aren't necessarily dumb or stupid but rather are looking for a way out of being at the bottom of the barrel. No class/race wants to be at the bottom and Trump is the savior who is promising to bring them out. At the end of the day, it is human nature to look at your race's role in society and see how it is competing with others in the economic scheme of things. Is it indicative of anything useful, most likely not. But again, I believe it's human nature. No race wants to be the one on government aid, welfare, community housing, jobless, homeless, etc. There may be a race to the top but there is also a fight to not be at the very bottom. The fight to not be at the very bottom maybe more important as being the lowest class of people in society (economically and socially) is dehumanizing.

The main difference between racism today and 20 years ago is the internet. Our society is still as racist as it used to be (assumption by me), just today it's more covert. We have the ability to hide behind a computer screen and screen name and spew out hatred and racist bigotry and not really see any consequences for it. Believe it or not, some racists have a conscious and don't want to be identified or associated publicly by their behavior. But if you ever wonder if racism has died in Canada, British Columbia, Vancouver, etc...just take a look at the online comments of any race associated news article. You will see comment after comment of hatred.

Canada may be considered a melting pot and I KNOW it's a lot better than our US counterparts. But we have this overwhelming sense of entitlement in this country and this often gets in the way of racial progression. This whole "my country, my language, my culture" dialogue needs to stop. There is no "my" in this country, nothing is owned by you born here or not, and no one is entitled to anything. Regardless of your race, language, nationality or age...we're all equal under the law and that's the only thing that matters. Far too often people in this country blame each other for their downfalls or lack of success. Minorities are stealing our language, our jobs, our housing, taking up space in our schools, etc. This dialogue needs to stop for us to progress further in our melting pot society.

MG1 10-26-2016 09:58 AM

Canada is still hanging on to being a mosaic rather than a melting pot like the US. Here we tend to embrace differences rather than make others wave the stars and stripes.


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