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dark0821 03-12-2017 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by FerrariEnzo (Post 8828654)
I wonder what the pay scale will be... if not too crappy... getting a old/used honda would be worthwhile...

you will be working a long long long time to get that car to pay for it self... even if they allowed for like a 5-6K beater?

ae101 03-12-2017 01:35 PM

Not sure how this would work in Vancouver, but i have friends that are uber/didi drivers here in china

Anyone can be a driver, but u need to have a full license (something kinda like that)

Your car needs to be less then 5 years old and must pass inspection

There is also regulations on how your car needs to be setup, dont bother if u have a modded car (some ppl have 2 cars, the uber car they bought are from another city as u can tell by plates)

Insurance, not too sure on that thought besides the base insurance u buy (might have to buy extras)

Yes u do make a bit of money out this but its not something that make u ballen, as my friends are just average rich guys (mid-class ppl with of money cuz government pays them for their land)

They told me about it over small talk, but im not too sure

Skytrain, 1am..........bitch please thats a luxury for me, Guangzhou last train for metro is 11:30pm for line 1 and the rest of the other lines last yrain is before that

Teriyaki 03-12-2017 01:50 PM

Yea. I'm pretty sure the car has to be relatively new as all the users I've taken around the world are always in new cars.
I only ever take UberX. Pleasantly surprised to find myself in a BMW in Taipei. Usually they're Camry's, especially in NYC.

Mr.HappySilp 03-12-2017 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ae101 (Post 8828682)
Not sure how this would work in Vancouver, but i have friends that are uber/didi drivers here in china

Anyone can be a driver, but u need to have a full license (something kinda like that)

Your car needs to be less then 5 years old and must pass inspection

There is also regulations on how your car needs to be setup, dont bother if u have a modded car (some ppl have 2 cars, the uber car they bought are from another city as u can tell by plates)

Insurance, not too sure on that thought besides the base insurance u buy (might have to buy extras)

Yes u do make a bit of money out this but its not something that make u ballen, as my friends are just average rich guys (mid-class ppl with of money cuz government pays them for their land)

They told me about it over small talk, but im not too sure

Skytrain, 1am..........bitch please thats a luxury for me, Guangzhou last train for metro is 11:30pm for line 1 and the rest of the other lines last yrain is before that

I had some small talks with didi drivers while in Beijing. A lot of them don't do it for full time. Is more like part time thing. Basically is more of a pick up service there. In the app it tracks where you (client are) and you type in where you want to go. Then drivers who have the app and happen to be nearby gets an alert. They then see where you want to go. If it is near where they want to go or they are willing to drive you there, then they accept it.

So that's why some places is easier./faster to get a driver while other times it takes longer since not many driver might want to go where you want to go. Also you pay through WeChat. They send the bill to you through WeChat and you just pay there. Most of the cars I been in is pretty new (no BMW or luxury cars but new enough).

Oddly enough most didi drivers I meet are mostly male in their mid to late 30's. Haven't seen any female drivers yet. They all seem pretty nice.

CP.AR 03-12-2017 06:48 PM

many Uber drivers don't do it full time in HK either. One of the drivers even admitted to driving Uber for the sake of driving his car.

Digitalis 03-12-2017 08:28 PM

Long as you guys realize uber is an advocate of getting humans out of driving cars period. Not a Ethical model I will be supporting.

corollagtSr5 03-12-2017 09:46 PM

2007 4 door clean title is the vehicle requirements.

iPee 03-13-2017 12:10 PM

I remember taking uber in cali when it first came out, and the rules were more relaxed. I recall being picked up in a beater with non-working seatbelts.

Dragon-88 03-13-2017 12:17 PM

Finally I can use my Corolla for its intended purpose of being built..

Verdasco 03-13-2017 06:31 PM

people were making $15 driving an uber in las vegas

so i dont know why anyone would do this and support uber, they are cash grabbing fucks, worst than taxi business imo

they are crooks that are known to scam their drivers over and over again



taxi is corrupt here and I wish they changed enough but they didn't, I still think uber is worst than taxis, atleast taxis pay more to their drivers.

Traum 03-13-2017 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Verdasco (Post 8828929)
people were making $15 driving an uber in las vegas

so i dont know why anyone would do this and support uber, they are cash grabbing fucks, worst than taxi business imo

they are crooks that are known to scam their drivers over and over again

taxi is corrupt here and I wish they changed enough but they didn't, I still think uber is worst than taxis, atleast taxis pay more to their drivers.

Verdasco, I find this perspective to be quite odd. After all, Uber is not holding a gun to their drivers' heads and forcing them to drive for the company. Every Uber driver gets into the business by their own free will, and they are totally free to quit any time they want, or work as much or as little as they want. Rationally, if Uber drivers are motivated to drive Uber by the amount of money they can make from Uber, they would naturally stop driving Uber when the revenues no longer justifies the costs.

From a consumer's perspective, Uber is usually far superior to taxi in multiple ways. When no foul play is involved, it is not the consumer's business to be concerned of what the operating costs are.

tiger_handheld 03-13-2017 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Digitalis (Post 8828730)
Long as you guys realize uber is an advocate of getting humans out of driving cars period. Not a Ethical model I will be supporting.

why don't you support driverless automobiles?

iwantaskyline 03-13-2017 07:22 PM

^His occupation likely revolves around driving. It's like the dimwits who work in the oil industry denying global warming.

Hondaracer 03-13-2017 07:52 PM

On Saturday it was 45 minutes to get a cab from Hastings/Nanaimo to downtown at 12:35 pm..

Fucking cabs

The_AK 03-13-2017 08:19 PM

Signed up, we'll see what they say about my car being a 2006 model (apparently car can be no older than 10 years)

Jmac 03-13-2017 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tiger_handheld (Post 8828932)
why don't you support driverless automobiles?

Increasing number of people on the planet, potential for decreasing number of jobs due to advancements in automation.

It doesn't really impact too many people at this point, but the day is definitely coming where, if allowed, it'll have an impact on a substantial number of people. Thus why you see people like Bill Gates saying that robots need to be taxed to provide money for social programs, etc.

Verdasco 03-13-2017 10:38 PM

i really love the uber concept and I JUST HOPE.... it pays well when it arrives to vancouver



if my scion FRS can get accepted i would do it for the :lawl: and zoom zoom


Spoiler!

Traum 03-13-2017 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8828951)
Increasing number of people on the planet, potential for decreasing number of jobs due to advancements in automation.

It doesn't really impact too many people at this point, but the day is definitely coming where, if allowed, it'll have an impact on a substantial number of people. Thus why you see people like Bill Gates saying that robots need to be taxed to provide money for social programs, etc.

If that's your reasoning, you realize you're basically saying you're anti-technology advancement, right? And if past human history is any indication, having technology to supplement and/or replace human labour has basically been happening since the beginning of time. Esp after the industrial revolution, the past of automation replacing human labour has been happening faster than ever.

Supposedly, the human capital that gets freed up as a result of the automation should be directed to expend their talents elsewhere, thereby creating more productivity. In reality, of course we know that re-training someone can range from difficult to down right impossible. I don't have any

What I am saying is, there is no use in trying to resist the tide. If you do, you're just gonna get left behind.

As far as autonomous vehicles replacing human drivers, I am not too convinced that it'll happen any time "soon". And by "soon", I am guessing a 10 - 15 year time frame, or maybe even longer. My primary reasoning for this is, the vehicles we see and use today are, by and large, not at all autonomous, and cannot be retrofitted (at a reasonably cost) to be autonomous. In fact, I don't see this changing too much in the next 3 - 5 years. With a typical service life of 10 - 15 years, the majority of today's cars are still gonna be around then. And because human drivers are too dumb and unpredictable, they don't play well with autonomous vehicles, and that'll delay the widespread acceptance / implementation of autonomous vehicles.

Jmac 03-14-2017 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8828981)
If that's your reasoning, you realize you're basically saying you're anti-technology advancement, right? And if past human history is any indication, having technology to supplement and/or replace human labour has basically been happening since the beginning of time. Esp after the industrial revolution, the past of automation replacing human labour has been happening faster than ever.

Supposedly, the human capital that gets freed up as a result of the automation should be directed to expend their talents elsewhere, thereby creating more productivity. In reality, of course we know that re-training someone can range from difficult to down right impossible. I don't have any

What I am saying is, there is no use in trying to resist the tide. If you do, you're just gonna get left behind.

As far as autonomous vehicles replacing human drivers, I am not too convinced that it'll happen any time "soon". And by "soon", I am guessing a 10 - 15 year time frame, or maybe even longer. My primary reasoning for this is, the vehicles we see and use today are, by and large, not at all autonomous, and cannot be retrofitted (at a reasonably cost) to be autonomous. In fact, I don't see this changing too much in the next 3 - 5 years. With a typical service life of 10 - 15 years, the majority of today's cars are still gonna be around then. And because human drivers are too dumb and unpredictable, they don't play well with autonomous vehicles, and that'll delay the widespread acceptance / implementation of autonomous vehicles.

First, that's not my reasoning, that's the reasoning of many experts (like Gates). And I was guessing at Digitalis' reasoning of it being unethical (in his words). They also say, yes, it'll allow people to use their talents for more creative and intelligent endeavours (which is good) and retraining will be necessary, but the first jobs that are going to go are the lower-end jobs (restaurants replacing staff, taxis replaced by autonomous vehicles, etc.). The vast majority of those people will be young people (who will hopefully get a free or, at least, heavily-subsidized education so they can contribute to said endeavours) and the less-capable (who will need a social safety net).

I'm not resistant at all, I'm 6 months into another round of training in automation. But that doesn't mean I'm blind to the obvious.

ssjGoku69 03-14-2017 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by flagella (Post 8827654)
The public will fund the fucking incompetency of the taxi industry for failure to innovate and compete? Fuck right off.


Hmmm I think the blame lands on the city more so than the taxi companies.


The root cause for the taxi industry's failures (price,inefficiencies) lies on the municipal governments for artificially limiting taxi licenses; a barrier to entry for new taxi companies. New companies would need to pay ~$800k per taxi car to play the taxi game i think. Existing taxi companies would have an incentive to charge you drybuttentry prices to recover their $800k cost. If the city suddenly just abandoned the taxi licences and allowed Uber, then the value of the taxi licences become worthless overnight. The taxi owners finds this to be an unfair move by the city which is why the city is offering all this help.

Manic! 03-14-2017 10:54 AM

Anyone looking to drive for uber should look up the strategies drivers use to make the most money. There are ways you can game the system to make the most money. It's going to suck if towards the end of your shift you have to drive someone from Vancouver to Langley and then have to drive all the way back and not be paid for the return trip.

ae101 03-16-2017 06:46 AM

This is why ppl have fuel efficient cars and the driver chooses to the drive or not lol

SkinnyPupp 03-16-2017 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8828996)
First, that's not my reasoning, that's the reasoning of many experts (like Gates). And I was guessing at Digitalis' reasoning of it being unethical (in his words). They also say, yes, it'll allow people to use their talents for more creative and intelligent endeavours (which is good) and retraining will be necessary, but the first jobs that are going to go are the lower-end jobs (restaurants replacing staff, taxis replaced by autonomous vehicles, etc.). The vast majority of those people will be young people (who will hopefully get a free or, at least, heavily-subsidized education so they can contribute to said endeavours) and the less-capable (who will need a social safety net).

I'm not resistant at all, I'm 6 months into another round of training in automation. But that doesn't mean I'm blind to the obvious.

Automation is coming, and a solution to the jobs problem will come with it. Most likely in the form of basic income for everyone, possibly subsidised by the very fact that the automation exists (because it will probably be orders of magnitude more efficient and money making than having to pay staff)

Technological advancement is pretty much the only thing that defines humans as we are. We just keep pushing forward more and more, finding solutions to whatever problems arise, and keep going from there.

Mr.HappySilp 03-16-2017 01:36 PM


The_Situation 03-16-2017 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verdasco (Post 8828929)
people were making $15 driving an uber in las vegas

so i dont know why anyone would do this and support uber, they are cash grabbing fucks, worst than taxi business imo

they are crooks that are known to scam their drivers over and over again



taxi is corrupt here and I wish they changed enough but they didn't, I still think uber is worst than taxis, atleast taxis pay more to their drivers.

I don't give a shit about the drivers. Just get me home from Venue friday night without making me take out a second mortgage


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