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SkinnyPupp 07-22-2017 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8852989)
Yea takes hella courage to leave 6 kids behind

You just made his point

Noir 07-22-2017 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8852989)
Yea takes hella courage to leave 6 kids behind

I know you're being sarcastic, but yeah, it actually does.

What people forget about depression that is that it's not just a burden to the one bearing it, but you also affect and hurt the people around you; Sometimes on purpose, sometimes not. People in this state of mind (wether right or wrong) think that by committing suicide, your also alleviating not just your pain, but the pain you cause to others; and in that warped sense of logic, they actually think they're doing those around them a favor.

GS8 07-22-2017 11:36 PM

When my Uncle committed suicide (among a few others in my family), it took me a while to understand the why. Once the answer clicked, the first thing I thought was 'no more pain, no more suffering, you're okay now'.

That was MY reaction. It was hardly the one felt throughout the family. Maybe I'm just a closeted Buddhist and don't realize it but by accepting what he did, I was able to cherish his memories and move on without burdening myself as it wouldn't do me or others around me any good.

No one can really say what's going on in the final moments of someone's head but if they succeed in their ultimate goal, I don't feel it's right to condemn them. You're only hurting yourself. Celebrate their life for even getting as far as they did. They tried but could not fit in sync with space and time.

Despite making great progress in the exploration of mental illness, it's still an enigma.

neggo 07-23-2017 10:40 AM

A strong back bone does not take away suicidal thoughts or tendencies.

Nietzsche said, "He who has a why to live can bare almost any how", and that's fundamentally how the majority of human life operates. People essentially add meaning to their lives through whatever it is they attach an importance to.

There are some people, however, who utterly find it impossible to operate that way. Regardless of how hard they try, even with the support of a loving family, they just can't find a "why" that can provide them with a reason to live.

Many of us will willingly suffer because we can find the reason in why we suffer; we know that the suffering will be worth it because there will come a point where the suffering will cease, and we will have reached a goal or objective. On the opposite side of the spectrum, people who go through major depression suffer on a daily basis but find no meaning in their suffering; a predicament that could even make the most hardened, mentally fortified individuals question their existence.

Suicide and depression are horrible and in no way do I condone it, but it is not as simple as some people make it out to be.

twitchyzero 07-23-2017 11:19 AM

you guys are replying to someone who posts 'who wore the noose better' meme and believes the Middle East should be leveled with nukes?

Inaii 07-23-2017 12:30 PM

The original "just have a backbone" post was made by hchang. So they might be replying to both.

Eff-1 07-23-2017 03:16 PM

His music made this video one of the better car montages ever posted to the internet. Terribly sad news.


Tim Budong 07-24-2017 02:33 AM

rather than blasting the albums, i've been throwing their shows on at work instead
You can see the evolution of their live shows as well.
This show was June 25th, so less than a month ago



ae101 07-24-2017 04:25 AM

It's funny how many of my Chinese friends in China are fans of linkin park, I didn't realize it intill now after Chester Bennington died

Armind 07-24-2017 08:24 AM


Tim Budong 07-24-2017 08:29 AM

#RIPCHESTER


HonestTea 07-24-2017 08:39 AM

:tears: :tears: :tears:

hchang 07-24-2017 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8852932)
Wrong. All you need is a strong backbone.

"You just made my point"

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Originally Posted by kr4l (Post 8852942)
Strong backbone? Really?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 8852977)
This is slightly untrue. To be honest, I think it takes a surreal amount of courage to commit suicide.

When one commits you suicide, you don't realize how much your involuntary instincts take over to prevent your self-harm. Even though your mind is saying go, your body will defy your mind in front of your eyes in self preservation; so the amount of pain, and warped thoughts it takes to overcome that self-preservation instincts must be far more incredible than your typical people judge it to be, when they call such a thing as the "easy way".

Yes your body will want self preservation to kick in, but it's still the cowardly thing to do. You end your life to not face reality, not thinking about kids left behind, friends, family. Leaves you to not have to deal with the consequences, like Aaron Hernandez.

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 8853001)
I know you're being sarcastic, but yeah, it actually does.

What people forget about depression that is that it's not just a burden to the one bearing it, but you also affect and hurt the people around you; Sometimes on purpose, sometimes not. People in this state of mind (wether right or wrong) think that by committing suicide, your also alleviating not just your pain, but the pain you cause to others; and in that warped sense of logic, they actually think they're doing those around them a favor.

*whether
*you're

Yes but it's more of a burden to to the friends and family you leave behind. They will be thinking "Is there anything I could've done to stop them?" "Did they do it partially because of me?" "I should have been nicer to them"

Then your friends and family will have to deal with the guilt, costs of your funeral, having to raise YOUR kids on their own, having to take on YOUR roles and YOUR responsibilites on the life that YOU created.

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Originally Posted by neggo (Post 8853055)
A strong back bone does not take away suicidal thoughts or tendencies.

No but it will guide you through life with your chest out and head up.

Tim Budong 07-24-2017 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hchang (Post 8853217)
"You just made my point"



Yes.



Yes your body will want self preservation to kick in, but it's still the cowardly thing to do. You end your life to not face reality, not thinking about kids left behind, friends, family. Leaves you to not have to deal with the consequences, like Aaron Hernandez.



*whether
*you're

Yes but it's more of a burden to to the friends and family you leave behind. They will be thinking "Is there anything I could've done to stop them?" "Did they do it partially because of me?" "I should have been nicer to them"

Then your friends and family will have to deal with the guilt, costs of your funeral, having to raise YOUR kids on their own, having to take on YOUR roles and YOUR responsibilites on the life that YOU created.



No but it will guide you through life with your chest out and head up.


Your life must be so perfect...
FailFish

hchang 07-24-2017 12:30 PM

^ lol no it's not but I know how to deal with it because I'm not a vagina

Spectre_Cdn 07-24-2017 12:41 PM

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/.../020/BRTky.jpg

MarkyMark 07-24-2017 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hchang (Post 8853241)
^ lol no it's not but I know how to deal with it because I'm not a vagina

Sweet, tell us how you beat anorexia too because you don't eat like a bitch.

neggo 07-24-2017 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hchang (Post 8853217)
No but it will guide you through life with your chest out and head up.

Your thinking is too naive and parochial. By that logic, any mental illness can be resolved by simply telling the individual to keep their chest out and head up.

Good luck telling someone with schizophrenia or severe depression that. FailFish

hchang 07-24-2017 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 8853244)
Sweet, tell us how you beat anorexia too because you don't eat like a bitch.

Sure did.

In fact, your mom's in the kitchen making me a sandwich for me as we speak.


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Originally Posted by neggo (Post 8853255)
Your thinking is too naive and parochial. By that logic, any mental illness can be resolved by simply telling the individual to keep their chest out and head up.

Good luck telling someone with schizophrenia or severe depression that. FailFish

Rather not open another can of worms here but yes I actually do believe that, actually, let me elaborate.

Doctors nowadays label people who come in with problems with a disease. I'm not saying all mental illness is made up but I believe most can be fixed with logical thinking, something majority of you can't seem to grasp.

Here's a link explaining more how mental illness ratio numbers was down in the 60's, 70s and 80s

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...ssues-the-rise

Let me guess, you also voted for this hippie we have in office who sympathizes with terrorists?

Spectre_Cdn 07-24-2017 02:14 PM

Can you explain how logical thinking can help someone who hears voices in their head, telling him to kill himself?

Or how logical thinking can help when he thinks there's a listening device in the cable modem, planted by the authorities?

I don't know your background, but please enlighten us on your expertise in handling mental illness, since you seem so well versed in it.

Sid Vicious 07-24-2017 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hchang (Post 8853260)
Sure did.

In fact, your mom's in the kitchen making me a sandwich for me as we speak.




Rather not open another can of worms here but yes I actually do believe that, actually, let me elaborate.

Doctors nowadays label people who come in with problems with a disease. I'm not saying all mental illness is made up but I believe most can be fixed with logical thinking, something majority of you can't seem to grasp.

Here's a link explaining more how mental illness ratio numbers was down in the 60's, 70s and 80s

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...ssues-the-rise

Let me guess, you also voted for this hippie we have in office who sympathizes with terrorists?

i don't see exactly what you're trying to say here?

any organ in the body is susceptible to disease or problems, why would the brain be any different?

the brain is possibly the most complex organ too, and possiblY one of the most complex structures in the universe, so it makes sense how these problems are not well understood or easily treatable

hchang 07-24-2017 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spectre_Cdn (Post 8853267)
Can you explain how logical thinking can help someone who hears voices in their head, telling him to kill himself?

Or how logical thinking can help when he thinks there's a listening device in the cable modem, planted by the authorities?

I don't know your background, but please enlighten us on your expertise in handling mental illness, since you seem so well versed in it.

1) Because there's nothing logical about you if you hear voices in your head.

2) Stop doing drugs or stop selling drugs.

3) None of your damn business what I do for work.

twitchyzero 07-24-2017 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hchang (Post 8853260)
Doctors nowadays label people who come in with problems with a disease. I'm not saying all mental illness is made up but I believe most can be fixed with logical thinking, something majority of you can't seem to grasp.

lol, Dr. Google checking in

funeral costs? Bennington is worth $30M, his family will probably be fine financially.

some times you just gotta do you, and not worry about the emotional impact on others. Do you call those who divorce in an unhealthy relationship to be selfish? THINK ABOUT THE KIDS!

neggo 07-24-2017 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hchang (Post 8853260)
Let me guess, you also voted for this hippie we have in office who sympathizes with terrorists?

None of your damn business who I voted for :troll:

There is a major difference between whiny, delicate, snowflake millennials who THINK they have a mental illness and people who legitimately have a mental illness.

The former are composed of individuals who voluntarily refuse to think logically, whereas the latter have a desire to but are just not capable of doing so.

Hondaracer 07-24-2017 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Spectre_Cdn (Post 8853267)
Can you explain how logical thinking can help someone who hears voices in their head, telling him to kill himself?

Or how logical thinking can help when he thinks there's a listening device in the cable modem, planted by the authorities?

I don't know your background, but please enlighten us on your expertise in handling mental illness, since you seem so well versed in it.

if you're talking about some down and out single mom living on welfare in a crack shack, sure..

Chester had a net worth of 30 million dollars when he died.. a man of virtually unlimited resources, not someone siting in an alley feeling sad.


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