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Originally Posted by threezero (Post 8854300)

he wasn't looking to move up into a position. he is looking skip the bottom and go right to the top.

One word came to mind: entitled

My apologies in advance, everyone.

I'm having a difficult time trying to understand what it is that the OP is trying to achieve. The more I read the post, the more confused I am getting.

So let's get this straight - OP is an outside applicant who is trying to apply to a company, and he is upset that he is not offered the position, or at the very least, given even an interview?

If this is correct, I have no words. Someone, and please, correct me if I am wrong.

the guy is basically trying to blame the company for him not getting the position

its not them, its you

Damn, companies want to hire/promote employees who have proven competency and loyalty over years of service? and not a random external applicant?

What is the world coming to?!

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Originally Posted by tru_blue (Post 8854120)

Hi all,

Seeking some advice here.

There is a job opening available on a company's website and I have applied many times and each time, I notice they always end up hiring people within their own group or they hire someone that has connections to their group.

I have also noticed each time that they have hired someone who does not have prior experience but has been with the group working at a lower level position.

I have messaged one of the managers directly and he stated that the group usually hires within the company first and acknowledges that he did receive my application.

I think this is really unfair and unethical and was wondering where I can file a complaint regarding this issue (work safe etc ) ?

I have also asked around and other people in the industry have stated that this store is really hard to get in and most times they want to hire someone, they will make a posting on their company website but they already know who they want to hire and the posting is just a front.

Coles notes:
-company has a job opening but each time they post it, they already know in advance who they want to hire and the posting is most likely false
-each time, they always promote someone within the group and end up hiring someone from a lower job position
-manager states directly that the group promotes within first and he did receive my application
-the store also hires people who have connections to the store (manager) but are not working for the overall group

**It is a high end retail sales store**

Have you guys experienced something like this?

Thanks all in advance for your opinions !

FailFish are you 12 trying to get a job at Holt or something? LOL filing a complaint with work safe on hiring practices? Are you for real?

I wouldn't want you standing there expecting a hand-out pay cheque either when you start thinking that doing work for pay starts becoming "unfair".

Congratulations, you've now set several rungs below ilovebacon, he has a job and a far better attitude. +7 for bacon.

salt level: triggered

work smart, not hard

Op you can't seriously think that from the employers perspective this makes the most sense on all levels.

If you had a choice between 10 applicants who you've worked with and already know how they perform and 10 applicants who you don't know shit about who would you hire? Unless the 10 internals are fucking idiots I can't see any scenario where the ladder option is the better choice.

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Originally Posted by winson604 (Post 8855424)

If you had a choice between 10 applicants who you've worked with and already know how they perform and 10 applicants who you don't know shit about who would you hire? Unless the 10 internals are fucking idiots I can't see any scenario where the ladder option is the better choice.

It might be a better choice if you need to reach high places quickly, almost like a corporate stairway or something....

You only have yourself to blame.

I know of places that require certain degrees in a specific field or equivalent training and experience, X amount of years experience, and ability to know certain things/programs that only a few select companies would use eliminating 90% of applicants right off the bat. More or less someone who's been shadowing someone or has been relieving someone has now got the opportunity to get a full time position and they've catered a job posting so he's guaranteed to be the only one who can be selected. Can't say they didn't advertise the position. Too bad. Like others said, start at the bottom and work your way up the chain.

When my wife worked at Hydro it was the same, nothing sneaky going on. Some jobs would first be posted internally if they could not be filled they would be posted externally. There were other positions that were posted in both locations internal/external the tie always went to the internal hire.

She now has a Provincial Govt Job for Healthlink BC and again jobs are advertised Internal and External, you have to really stand out to beat an internal applicant. My wife was told when she was hired as an external for a regular position it was super rare and they never hire external applicants for regular (Non Temp) positions but they head hunted her to come over.

My point is it happens all the time, there is nothing shady going on it's just the way it is.