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ScizzMoney 09-15-2017 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by meme405 (Post 8861511)
..Gonna stop paying these bullshit taxes, go to school for free..

I wish I was able to go to school for free. Had to pay like everyone else and even took out student loans. The band I belong to only gets enough funding for 3 students per year (better than nothing, at least 3 get to go).

hud 91gt 09-15-2017 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ScizzMoney (Post 8861637)
I wish I was able to go to school for free. Had to pay like everyone else and even took out student loans. The band I belong to only gets enough funding for 3 students per year (better than nothing, at least 3 get to go).

Interesting fact.

Lucky that your band even had 3 people graduating high school to even attempt post secondary. I'm assuming not a remote reserve.


I saw an article regarding the Inuit in Iqaluit a couple years ago. If I remember correctly it was just stating how low the high school enrolment is these days. So much that they were very proud to have 5 kids graduating. This is in Iqaluit. The capital of Nunavut. A thriving metropolis compared to many places.

Manic! 09-15-2017 01:13 PM

:nicethread:
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Originally Posted by hud 91gt (Post 8861638)
Interesting fact.

Lucky that your band even had 3 people graduating high school to even attempt post secondary. I'm assuming not a remote reserve.


I saw an article regarding the Inuit in Iqaluit a couple years ago. If I remember correctly it was just stating how low the high school enrolment is these days. So much that they were very proud to have 5 kids graduating. This is in Iqaluit. The capital of Nunavut. A thriving metropolis compared to many places.

Inqaluit population is 7,740 and not all are Inuit. So we don't know if 5 is good or bad.

Bouncing Bettys 09-15-2017 01:34 PM

When you are accused of wrong think, the pitchforks come out.
Sen. Lynn Beyak's position in question after latest remarks about First Nations
Spoiler!

Manic! 09-15-2017 02:11 PM

Whats the point of the senate anyway?

hud 91gt 09-15-2017 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8861643)
:nicethread:

Inqaluit population is 7,740 and not all are Inuit. So we don't know if 5 is good or bad.

I lived there 3 years of my life too. I'm pretty aware ;) But your right, the whole population is not Inuk.

GabAlmighty 09-15-2017 04:03 PM

Good god, just come up to the arctic and witness the debauchery. I wasn't a very racist person until I moved up here and witnessed things first hand. All they want are more and more handouts on top of everything they get. The amount of money the government spends up here on the communities is ludicrous...

Take this for example. Tomorrow I am flying to a very small community up north (200 people max) to do two full days of shuttling people from there to some lake an hour away so they can go on a "cultural hunt", means they're going to decimate the caribou population a little more than it already is. So the community is paying for a DHC-6 to go there and do two full days of flying. I don't know what my company charges per hour on the thing but it's between $1000-1500/hr. And probably be close to 7-8hrs of flight time per day. Who do you think is ultimately footing this bill? (cuz there ain't no work in that community).

I could go on and on... It's extremely infuriating.

Berzerker 09-15-2017 04:26 PM

Here's a video from my security camera's around my building today.....

They sit behind my building and get drunk all day in front of my warehouse.


Berz out.

GabAlmighty 09-15-2017 07:17 PM

SKODEN!

ScizzMoney 09-15-2017 08:35 PM

Another shitty thing is that most of you guys only see and notice the bad apples. But that is everyone, white people in communities with a lot of black people only notice the shitty ones, and vice versa. I live in Fort McMurray and come across the same attitude towards natives up here. Even on my work team they would say the same thing, but they didn't realize that myself and our team leader are both Native. Now that they know they see it. I guess when we're not riding horseback and shooting our bows & arrows we kind of blend in.

Mr.C 09-15-2017 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8861390)
Regardless of the labels we might place on her, she has sparked the discussion on a long overdue and ignored debate. There is a long history of racism and abuse that seems to make its way into most discussions. That can't be ignored, but it can stall progress - look at the ongoing debacle that is the National Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women, as an example.
Long term, what is the best way to move forward together while keeping a culture from going extinct?

Integration.

Shit, worked for Brazil. Still lots of racism there (like, lots), but African culture, for example, is ingrained deeply in all layers of Brazilian society, even though we had slavery until 1888.

hud 91gt 09-15-2017 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ScizzMoney (Post 8861704)
Another shitty thing is that most of you guys only see and notice the bad apples. But that is everyone, white people in communities with a lot of black people only notice the shitty ones, and vice versa. I live in Fort McMurray and come across the same attitude towards natives up here. Even on my work team they would say the same thing, but they didn't realize that myself and our team leader are both Native. Now that they know they see it. I guess when we're not riding horseback and shooting our bows & arrows we kind of blend in.

Ain't it great when you are taken out of a sometimes predetermined destiny (I'm talking particularly about two remote reserves in northern MB, born here your destiny has already been made) and given a chance. Amazing isn't it. I hope this comment was not directed at me. It's the situation not the people.

CharlesInCharge 09-16-2017 02:28 AM

All present immigrants and past settlers (3-4 generations at most) are simply cash cows (by way of exorbitant tax and inflation devaluing earnings) for the empire.
They are also very simple minded as the propaganda machine runs deep coupled by slave wage earnings that hit hard. Muh resources, muh tax dollars... a Native American uprising couldnt come quick enough.

Berzerker 09-16-2017 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by hud 91gt (Post 8861718)
Ain't it great when you are taken out of a sometimes predetermined destiny (I'm talking particularly about two remote reserves in northern MB, born here your destiny has already been made) and given a chance. Amazing isn't it. I hope this comment was not directed at me. It's the situation not the people.


And rightly so. I manage a furniture store in Smithers. 9 out of 10 natives that come in here are asking for a quote on furniture so the band can buy it for them. This is usually to replace the sofa the band bought them a couple years ago. They trash it because they don't care and will just get replacements free anyways.

When you get a Native that integrated they usually don't care for the res natives either. They are just as judgmental as everyone else. Last month I had a guy come in and purchase a bunch of furniture. He lives on one of the rez's up here. When I asked his address he told me then said "Look for the biggest house on the street with nicest yard." Then he laughed and said "Yea I'm one of those workin natives. There aren't many of us out there!"
This came from a native who lives on a Res and calls it like it is.

How can you ask them to integrate when they literally have no reason to leave the rez. They have stores where they don't pay tax, they get money from the government and free housing. They drive brand new cars and trucks into the ground due to lack of maintenance and lack of care and let their brand new houses rot because when they get to bad they just tear it down and build a new for them.

This isn't opinion, I see it on the regular here delivering to the local Bands.

Berz out.

MarkyMark 09-16-2017 10:55 AM

I wonder if this is the future of society after everything is automated. Free money and no work will ruin us all.


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