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For CP, I like the fact that you can randomly order complimentary cup noodles and Haagen daaz ice cream. Hell, they provide you with an actual can of pop instead of half a cup. Their service is miles ahead of AC. I mean, our flight from HK to Shanghai on CP provided better meals than our flight AC from Van to HK and Shanghai back to Van. Haven't really experienced the newer reclining mechanism that my friends have complained about for CP flights, because I usually don't recline. Not sure if I can handle a longer flight. I can't sleep on planes. |
I guess I'll have to try Cathay next time, I had pretty good service from YVR - HKG; can't say the same coming back though. Food was alright. Was a 777. Ticket was only $647. Flew an Airbus with HK airlines from HKG to TPE, probably the most ghetto ride I've ever had. They didn't even have a public washroom (2-3 hour flight). Decent food though. |
You might want to compare luggage allowance as well, if you are going to be bringing back a bunch of stuff for family. |
Cathay if you have some extra money to spare. If you only have to choose between Air Canada and Hong Kong Air, go Air Canada. |
Just picked Cathay few minutes ago.. :thumbs: |
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AC has one flight a day, CX has 2-3/day for this particular route. Which airline do you think is currently struggling more to fulfill their seats? Quote:
AC007 12:05pm - 5:40pm 13h 35m CX889 01:15am - 7:05am 13h 50m HX081 10:40am - 5:15pm 14h 35m CX837 01:10pm - 7:10pm 14h 00m HX080 12hr 05m / AC008 11h 25m / CX at 11h 25 & 11h 30m Of course, all these numbers mean nothing in real time after taking into account delays, actual flight time, etc. Certain airlines/routes also add more 'padding' to their timing. But their SCHEDULED flight time are all within the same ball park. Want a more accurate representation? Look up their historical performance on flightaware like ronald55555 did. Quote:
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You have no idea how many people complain daily about CX's changing aircraft types on their REGIONAL routes daily. On the YVR-HKG route specifically, you should be fine - majority of the time. I don't think CX and AC ever swapped aircraft before on this route, other than once or twice rare occasion in the past decade. Quote:
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AC offer Nissan cup noodles too, but honestly on a long haul flight stuck inside a metal tube, in economy class, the last thing you need more of - is MSG. |
My complaint wasnt about them swapping the airplane.. Im fine with that.. they over booked and need a larger aircraft.. but not telling you that you need to re-pick your seats was just bad.. or at least they could have reassigned the seats to relative where you booked would have been fine also. |
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Back to OP's question: Like Bender Unit mentioned, September is a low/shoulder season, if you're not in an urgent to book right now, I would wait and see if the price margins comes down smaller. If not, you will have to decide if the $200-250 difference is worth it for 1) A few mediocre airplane meals 2) Having an actual seat-back IFE or iPad for entertainment 3) Mileage articulation if that's important for you 4) Getting a smile or not from the flight attendant CX might be slightly "nicer" overall, but personally, $200-250 CAD can also get you a very nice meal or two on the ground. That's like 1/3rd of your $700 ticket cost, who cares if it will earn you any miles in a "loyalty" program. If it's between AC and HX, hands down the latter. No way I would pay $200 more on AC to be seated 3-4-3, not even if they are the same price. |
Finally, someone with some facts to back up their opinion. In general, I always check the following (amongst others that has been mentioned already): flightaware/flightradar24 - historical on-time performance, bonus - you can also look up registration numbers of a few planes that fly the route frequently to see how old they are google flight - great for comparing prices and dates, shows price trends over time. Sometimes doesn't work for all airlines Seatguru - shows seating arrangements, pitch, width, bad seats to avoid, and often times pictures of exactly what you will get |
If difference is nominal, I will choose Cathay over HK Airlines. Cathay has taken care of me in the past with delays, weather issues well beyond what they needed to do. They've flown me home on their dime, when another carrier had their flights booked out solid for 3 days after I missed their flight (due to cx connector, but bought separately so Cathay had their hands clean once they got me to hkg). Sometimes, it's not just about yhe cheapest product. It's about the service, both before during and after that you're paying for. Lost luggage, weather issues, etc. I'd put a lot more faith into CX than HX. And by God, how has no one mentioned that CP is not Cathay Pacific. Its CX. Hong Kong airlines is HX and air Canada is AC. Please and thanks. |
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forced me to go back to line-up at the AirAsia Thai counter to print a hard-copy by time the it was my turn it was already within 1 hour of take-off and their systems have closed = forfeit is it fair to judge one airport from one experience with the security staff, no, but I'd rather not go back anytime soon unrelated but even the HKSAR customs at the ferry terminal to macau really enforces the no loitering rule not at the counter but immediately past the booths, I was literally just taking 5 seconds securing my documents into my bag and they pestered me to kept moving |
I would fly HK save $200 and use it in HK for a 141...massa... hotel upgrade. |
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flew china airlines to Taipei in december, shit food, but the plane and service was good flew cathay return about 4 years ago to BKK through HK, good food AC same flights, not so good a few years ago. AC to HK then cathay to BKK (of course was better). has the same issue of my screen not working on the HK to YVR flight home |
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CX hands down worth the extra $$ AC isn't half bad, just crammed seats experiences from people that have flown HX was meh. I've taken HX to NRT, redeye flight, it had IFE... so eventually and hopefully, HX will place IFE onthe YVR route |
Wait to book your tickets. There's no real reason to book 8 months in advance, I just flew back to HK for a funeral Jan 18 - Jan 23 on CX and it cost me $679 because AC was doing a promo and CX matched the promo price the day after; I also booked my flights a week before I flew. I also got my AsiaMiles with the discount flight. On my CX flights last week, the food was the same as always, but I've found the service to be not as good as when I flew in the past. Feels like they are cutting corners a little(ie lazier), but they still cater to your needs as much as possible if you ask. CX flies 2x 777 flights and a A350 flight to Vancouver daily. The best flights imo are the CX888/CX889 flights as they operate out of New York and YVR is just a layover - the timing of the flight and service just flat out seems to be better. CX837 (1pm YVR-HKG) that I was on last week clearly wasn't as good, and the flight took 14:20 which was the longest I've ever been on a plane. On the CX856 flight (11am HKG-YVR) they flew one of their new A350 jets, and I was looking forward to it - I was very disappointed. The interior was wrecked as the washrooms and overhead bins were all damaged. Some panels were being held together with duct tape, and some bins were unusable. I've flown with AC as well in the last two years and it wasn't that bad. Maybe I got lucky as I booked the aisle seat on the side, the seat was empty beside me, and the window seat was a cute chick. I would avoid HX until they redo the interiors or replace the YVR-HKG flights with the A350's. My wife flew their A320 from HKG-SHA(Shanghai) and she said it sucked, they had ipads but they ran out(probably cause it was a short flight). I flew a few days after and got on a A350 and the plane was nice. Food definitely sucked though. I was going to fly with HX and just deal with the shitty food and entertainment stuff because I was flying out on a whim and just wanted the cheapest flight possible. The CX/AC promo made their flights cheaper than HX and it was a no brainer. For those of you complaining about the 3-4-3 layout on AC's 777's, CX will be redoing their whole 777 fleet to 3-4-3. It's been talked about for a long time, but I heard it's happening starting in March of this year. |
^ good overview. I don't care much about food anymore as I bring sushi and my own food onboard on 99% of the flight. I found AC's service was really good this time, a lot of the 50+ yr old retired i guess? I still found JAL the best and then CX. |
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i personally like to book around 8-10 weeks in adv for long hauls |
AC's sardine can better pay me to get on let alone paying more money for it. :fuckthatshit: Seriously though, economy class nowadays are more or less the same. There's very little comfort to be had and only designed for you to get from A-B. Seats barely makes any difference and food/service, if you actually care, just bring something on board. On long haul flight like YVR-HKG, expect to spend a day after arrival to recover from the trip. If I were you, I'd do the following: find the cheapest flight if it's just A-B and use the money toward a good meal upon arrival. |
These are the Sales we are talking about. So you should wait and seeing https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...omy_class_sale |
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In Houston, I remember there were massage therapists; made it 10X better before jumping on the flight. |
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I used to just try to get to the airport as late as possible or if not, I'd just walk around, and only go into lounge to grab some food/drink. But really though, as I get older, the idea of traveling in economy for long haul no longer appeal to me. I'd rather just move my dates/itinerary for a cheaper J ticket while traveling less. The rule of thumb is 3x... a lie-flat J seat is roughly 3x the space of Y seats. So, if I can find fare that's around that mark, I'd get it. |
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