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hud 91gt 02-01-2018 06:17 PM

Are those US Costco ones mountable directly to the roof?

underscore 02-01-2018 06:42 PM

I see a keyhole mount at the end in the one picture so I'd assume yes.

blkgsr 02-02-2018 06:50 AM

are you guys just using a bunch of extension cords to plug all these lights in?

hud 91gt 02-06-2018 03:39 PM

^^ I'd like to know that as well.

Did some looking around Home Depot and tried to figure out how conduit works. ha. After some youtube it looks pretty simple. One question though, the two ceiling mounted lights in the garage are obviously in a normal recessed box of some sort. How do I mount an external box with conduit knockouts to the existing box. Can you add an extension to the original? Remove it completely, patch the drywall then just mount an external box on top?

From this
http://ask-the-electrician.com/elect...on-box-240.jpg

to this
https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1vMtpH...Xq6xXFXXXi.jpg

underscore 02-06-2018 04:25 PM

I believe this is what you need? https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.4...000857225.html

jing 02-06-2018 05:16 PM

You'll need something like this:
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.o...000106148.html

Run BX from the box to your new fixtures. Don't run conduit unless you're running single conductors since loomex inside pipe fails code.

hud 91gt 02-06-2018 06:33 PM

bX is that flexible conduit? So normal conduit isn’t alllowed? How about PVC?

jing 02-06-2018 06:37 PM

Bx aka armored cable aka AC90

Loomex in any conduit, metallic or non, is not allowed.

hud 91gt 02-06-2018 07:04 PM

That throws a wrench into my plans. I wanted to add more electrical outlets using boxes and conduit. Is there somewhere I can access the BC electrical code? This looked like a good alternative.

https://psknight.com/residential

hud 91gt 02-06-2018 07:33 PM

I think I get what you mean now. The conduit has to be run with individual insulated wiring which reallly can only be purchased in large rolls correct?

jing 02-06-2018 09:20 PM

Home depot might sell it by the foot...

hud 91gt 02-21-2018 05:46 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Ready for paint. Haven’t purchased the lighting yet though.

SSM_DC5 02-21-2018 05:51 PM

What you use to get the buckets to stick to the ceiling?

hud 91gt 02-22-2018 07:54 AM

An iPhone

Great68 02-22-2018 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jing (Post 8886731)
Bx aka armored cable aka AC90

Loomex in any conduit, metallic or non, is not allowed.

Not entirely correct.

More specifically, Non Metallic Sheathed Cable or NMD90 (Loomex) may not be used within a raceway when part of a complete raceway system.
The code does allow for NMD90 to be installed within short sections of conduit and tubing for the purposes of mechanical protection
Per CEC Section 12-910(2)

Great68 02-22-2018 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hud 91gt (Post 8886728)
bX is that flexible conduit? So normal conduit isn’t alllowed? How about PVC?

BX is armored cable, more specifically called AC90. Yes it's essentially flexible conduit with conductors already in it (although you can't pull the conductors in/out of it).

Technically you can run surface loomex on your ceiling as long as it's fastened correctly (above 5' you don't need protection, as it's not really going to be subject to damage on your ceiling). That's your cheapest option, but definately the ugliest.

Personally I don't find BX all that nice to look at either, nicely done and bent EMT would look the most PRO.

fliptuner 02-22-2018 08:26 AM

If it were me and I wanted it to be clean, I'd put it in the joists. The ceiling isnt even finished. I'd also raise the heater.

hud 91gt 02-22-2018 03:06 PM

And what is the proper way to do so?

Looking at the drywall tape on the ceiling, the joists run lengthways down the garage. I ordered the 4' amazon LED lights posted earlier. Running the wiring from the existing fixture looks like it would work out fine if I am hanging the lights perpendicular to the length of the garage.

I'm just so lost with housing construction with zero experience. I can make it work, but have no idea what is proper. ha.

Great68 02-23-2018 11:01 AM

You'd have to do some cutting and patching.

Cut in and mount your new outlet boxes where you want them, open up the ceiling as necessary to pull wire through and able to staple to face of joist every 5 feet (Also need to staple within 6" of Junction Box).
If you need to move perpendicular through joists, you can drill, but ensure you keep at least 1-1/4" from edge of joist.
All splices must be made within your junction boxes.
All junction boxes must be accessible once the ceiling is closed back up (Can't bury them within the ceiling)

jing 02-23-2018 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 8889586)
Not entirely correct.

More specifically, Non Metallic Sheathed Cable or NMD90 (Loomex) may not be used within a raceway when part of a complete raceway system.
The code does allow for NMD90 to be installed within short sections of conduit and tubing for the purposes of mechanical protection
Per CEC Section 12-910(2)

Not a sparky myself, just work with them enough to know a couple things.

@Great68 must be a city inspector being able to cite the CEC like that

OP can just post his CEC questions in here now instead of buying a code book :fullofwin:

Great68 02-23-2018 12:47 PM

Not an inspector, but yeah I have a copy of the CEC in my office... :P

hud 91gt 02-23-2018 02:50 PM

Thanks for the walkhrough 68. Went to HD today and bought some wires and boxes. Then finally got something to stand on and realized I was completely wrong with how the joists are run. Ha. After much thought, I’m going with the external routing once again as I don’t want to bother with going through lumber.

Attempted some mudding today on the ceiling. What a shitty job. Haha

hud 91gt 02-23-2018 03:54 PM

Also, purolater man made it to my place on time despite the snow. Those lights are fricken bright!!

hud 91gt 03-09-2018 07:35 PM

Running into a bit of a crossroads with my lighting.

I bought 4 amazon 4' LED shop lights which are meant to be plugged in (Not hardwired).

Original plan was to chop the ends off, wire into junction box of some kind and run EMT to where the old light fixture was.

The Home Depot guy was confused when I was looking for a connector from bare wire (Cut power cord) to a knockout in a box. First clue.

A little more googling, and it seems that is completely illegal to do. I'd rather have some insurance money when my, or my neighbours place burns down. So then it seems my only option is to wire in some actual power receptacles using EMT conduit. It's not going to be nearly as pretty, but it will work and it would be to code.

Wrong. My ceiling has a round box. Apparently i'm not allowed to run an extension off of this for my EMT.

If I take out the old box, can I just surface mount an externally mounted box over top of the hole. I assume this is a big no. How do I run the wires from the removed box, to a new externally mounted box. Do I need to repair the drywall and use some sort of pass through?

I'd rather do this correctly.

hud 91gt 03-09-2018 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliptuner (Post 8889590)
If it were me and I wanted it to be clean, I'd put it in the joists. The ceiling isnt even finished. I'd also raise the heater.

Quickly regretting not doing this.


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