The congestion will cause the province wayyyyy more money than the initial investment in building an adequate bridge though

Sorry, but in Vancouver all you get is a bike :ilied:

Agreed, but we can't really expect our politicians to exercise that much foresight or long term fiscal planning, can we?
FailFish

So Translink was probably happy to hand things over to the province.

4 lanes, but divided, wider, and safer will most likely do it. Hopefully the roads around it are not going to cause congestion. Once on a four lane bridge, everything should move smoothly as long as the on and off ramps are designed properly. More lanes isn't always the answer. I hope they took potential ice bombs out of the equation. What do the First Nations think of this........ are we going to have to suck some ass? Maybe a blessing ceremony or two............ dozen.

I can see it now.......... some indian band will claim it is going to be built on sacred burial grounds and everything gets put on hold.

The expansion to 6 lanes will probably never happen despite the available option so 4 lanes is what we get and that will be the max for the next 50 years.
If any sitting government tries to get the 2 lanes added at some point in the future, New West will cry about it until we are old and grey, lawsuits will delay any upgrade attempts like every other infrastructure project in BC. Just the usual BS.

do you drive over this bridge during rush hour? i mean i wouldn't say it's busy with bike/pedestrian traffic, but in the summer i see at least a few people on it every time i drive over it. i used to bike over it and there were hardly if ever any instances where i wouldn't cross paths with another person.

people dont use it currently because the bridge is sketchy and there is a lack of facilities connecting the bridge to it.

it's a trap to go green. tax on gas will go up after it's built to pay for it, but congestion will be the same. people will be forced to carpool and use the fcking bike lane

Too many train tracks

New Worstminster knows how to engineer for the future

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One could successfully argue that this is part of the end goal. Get more cars off the road by carpooling and using other means of transport. It's not an altogether bad idea so long as there are utilities in place allowing one to do so.

This.

Look what kind of shit show happened when the Bailey bridge at whatsthatstreet needed replacement. They ordered it and found out it wasn't going to work, lol. This after months of delays.

ffs.... instead of this project, BC should invest into more lanes for liongates. such a shit fest there

does every bridge these days take a billion or two and half a decade to complete?

I've said it once and I'll say it again. Our city council throughout the GVRD are full of complete shit. They want us to carpool more, they want us to use transit, or bike, and they want to implement a mobility tax. Yet one of the easiest solutions to ease congestion and encourage ride sharing, simply allow Uber, Lyft to come to this city and begin operating TODAY. But of course not, our city is too damn corrupt, it's an embarrassment with the traffic issues this city has, we're one of the last cities in North America to not allow such ride sharing. It is mind boggling to me the amount of shit we accept as citizens here.

I feel that because the lanes are narrower on patullo, it's safer. It's hard to speed on the patullo because of how narrow it is.

When I'm on the Alex Fraser, people are FLYING over that bridge. I feel safer on the patullo versus the alex fraser.

So i'm not sure that widening the lanes are actually safer.

The safety bit comes from whether 2 vehicles in adjacent lanes would graze each other. Especially with trucks of any kind -- and triply so for those with trailers -- the lanes are so narrow that there is no room to navigate within your lane. Esp around the bend where the Pattullo kind of turns into King George, I've had / seen more than a few close calls where the idiot driver almost veered into the adjacent lane because it is so narrow.

With Alex Fraser, yes, people are flying over that bridge, and the merging part could get a bit scary, but at least you don't have to stay on your toes when you are driving straight within your own lane. You have to do that on the Pattullo.