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Bouncing Bettys 09-05-2018 09:49 AM

Another Chilliwack Racist?
 
B.C. man faces deportation for membership in hate groups in England in 1990s
Friends rally to support Nick Cooper who is now a vocal advocate for diversity and inclusion

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The article doesn't provide a lot of detail. I would like to know more about how he got on the Ministry of Immigration's radar. What is his actual status in Canada? Which hate group was he a part of, what sort of things did they get up to, and what was his role? Why was he able to slip through, or allowed in, despite his past when he initially came to Canada? And so on.


I really like redemption stories so this is sad if true. He seems to have demonstrated a positive change in his life and the lives of others. If Trudeau can allow former ISIS fighters back into Canada and attempt to reintegrate them, I don't see why this man can't stay.

yray 09-05-2018 09:52 AM

Harper put in to law that anyone that got Canadian citizenship through naturalization may lose it if found to have had a criminal conviction before acquiring Canadian citizenship.

UK puts alot of stuff that would fly here as terror organizations.

68style 09-05-2018 10:18 AM

Pretty misleading thread title?

Bouncing Bettys 09-05-2018 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8917702)
Pretty misleading thread title?

How so? He resides in Chilliwack. The article, with its lack of detail, describes that he is being under threat of deportation for once being a member of a racist extremist group, which implies that the Canadian government doesn't believe he has been rehabilitated and still views him as a racist extremist, rather than someone who committed immigration fraud. That may not be the case, but I didn't write the article.

I admit the title is a bit of clickbait, but it was an attempt to show, especially in light of recent threads/posts of racism, that not everyone in the FV is a bigot.

68style 09-05-2018 11:13 AM

I can't speak for everyone, but I came in fully expecting a racist rant video... but it's clear after reading the article he's anything but a racist. The title goes against what you're trying to show, just my opinion.

Mr.Money 09-05-2018 11:41 AM

so the uk goverment was cracking down on terrorist groups beating up on immigrants with this guy in the nazi group,he decides to run and hide into Canada after they were taking action on all his buddies?.

Hopefully the England government deports him,no different than Nazi's fleeing Germany in my eyes in all fairness.
teaches him to spread hate and run with his tail between his legs,just like them all.

CivicBlues 09-05-2018 11:51 AM

IIRC, a 90-year old former Nazi Concentration Camp guard was just deported from the US to Germany. He was Polish but held no other citizenship but US.

Doesn't matter if the guy was a saint in the interim, if you do the crime you do the time.

Bouncing Bettys 09-05-2018 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Money (Post 8917722)
so the uk goverment was cracking down on terrorist groups beating up on immigrants with this guy in the nazi group,he decides to run and hide into Canada after they were taking action on all his buddies?.

Hopefully the England government deports him,no different than Nazi's fleeing Germany in my eyes in all fairness.
teaches him to spread hate and run with his tail between his legs,just like them all.

Could you source the information showing his participation in this group, that it is indeed an actual Nazi group (in the age of overuse, and often times incorrect use of such a label, I have to ask), or that he decided to flee to escape justice?

For all we, or at least I know, he had a change of heart during the risky birth of his daughter, turned on this group, and fled to Canada for fear of reprisal for his apostasy. Why would these various social justice groups go to bat for him if he escaped justice for attacking immigrants?

Great68 09-05-2018 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8917697)
If Trudeau can allow former ISIS fighters back into Canada and attempt to reintegrate them, I don't see why this man can't stay.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yray (Post 8917699)
Harper put in to law that anyone that got Canadian citizenship through naturalization may lose it if found to have had a criminal conviction before acquiring Canadian citizenship.

Correct, however only applies if the person holds a dual citizenship.

Omar Khadr was a born Canadian citizen, you can't take that away from him and make him stateless. As bad as the things that he did were.

Badhobz 09-05-2018 08:27 PM

Leave this fucking guy alone. I swear being white and male sucks in 2018

Thankfully I don't speak engrish and can play my minority card 24/7 while littering shit and driving like a fucktard.

Jmac 09-05-2018 09:03 PM

What sucks in 2018 is journalism ... W5 motherfuckers: Who, what, when, where, why (and how). Presenting more than one side of a story. Attempting to contact all parties involved.

What changed since his arrival? How did he end up on the Ministry's radar? Why are they looking to deport him now? Why didn't they attempt to contact the Ministry for a comment?

underscore 09-05-2018 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8917726)
Why would these various social justice groups go to bat for him if he escaped justice for attacking immigrants?

Groups like those make mistakes all the time, do you really expect them to have detailed knowledge of the actions of a group 20 years ago halfway around the world?

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8917810)
How did he end up on the Ministry's radar? Why are they looking to deport him now?

I don't know how these kinds of things work, but my guess would be the UK government put him on their radar because they want him back over there for whatever reason.

welfare 09-05-2018 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8917726)
Could you source the information showing his participation in this group, that it is indeed an actual Nazi group (in the age of overuse, and often times incorrect use of such a label, I have to ask), or that he decided to flee to escape justice?

The group he was allegedly affiliated

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_18

GS8 09-05-2018 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8917810)
What sucks in 2018 is journalism ... W5 motherfuckers: Who, what, when, where, why (and how). Presenting more than one side of a story. Attempting to contact all parties involved.

Journalism in 2018:

1.) 35 word subjective article that spans two small paragraphs

2.) Nine embedded tweets / FB posts from random housewives and Arts bros

3.) Take lunch break


As for this, I remember hearing about it a few weeks ago. I'm guessing he isn't free and clear with the law there. Anything outstanding against him needs to go through due process.

Bouncing Bettys 09-06-2018 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8917818)
Groups like those make mistakes all the time, do you really expect them to have detailed knowledge of the actions of a group 20 years ago halfway around the world?

Kinda like that Swedish student who protested on a plane to prevent the deportation of a Afghan asylum seeker, while essentially calling Afghanistan a shithole country to make her point. She was quickly dubbed a hero before it was revealed he was being deported because he had committed an assault in Sweden. oy vey

unit 09-06-2018 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 8917724)
IIRC, a 90-year old former Nazi Concentration Camp guard was just deported from the US to Germany. He was Polish but held no other citizenship but US.

Doesn't matter if the guy was a saint in the interim, if you do the crime you do the time.

the worst example is the guy in liberia, general butt naked. he killed and cannibalized thousands of people, and now he claims he's all christian and a changed man. that guy needs to be held accountable.


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