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Great68 11-07-2018 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Infiniti (Post 8926814)
BC Liberals are for all intents and purposes conservatives

I would say in social aspects they're a little more center than say the federal conservative party.

wreck 11-09-2018 08:46 AM

anyone watch the live debate last night? according to Horgan, PR is "lit".

remember this isn't a left vs right, or rich vs poor thing. PR is a terrible system, vote against.

Great68 11-09-2018 08:56 AM

Voted FPTP.

The strongest candidate in a riding wins the seat. If the person you vote for doesn't win too bad, they needed to do a better job in their riding of convincing people to vote for them.

To me, handing out seats just because a party got a certain percentage of the overall popular vote without winning any actual ridings is like the "participation award" of politics.

unit 11-09-2018 09:15 AM

voting for PR. FPTP is flawed and I want a change. Also it's fairly safe to say that anything conservatives want I'm generally against.

wreck 11-09-2018 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by unit (Post 8927737)
voting for PR. FPTP is flawed and I want a change. Also it's fairly safe to say that anything conservatives want I'm generally against.

you are misinformed. this has nothing to do with right vs left.

you are the typical voter i have a strong problem with.

whitev70r 11-09-2018 09:24 AM

The three PR options are very complicated.

Here is link to CBC's concise summary - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...iner-1.4889826

Some of the methods of PR explained ... I was like, 'What??!!' Eg. Urban gets one system, rural gets another. And then one or two of the options you vote for, politicians still have to decide on the specifics ... WHAT x2 ??!! So I'm giving them a blank cheque. I don't think so.

First Pass The Post

yray 11-09-2018 09:36 AM

Rather they just do FPTP VS STV instead of this hipster BS.

All the PR choices would work excellent in municipal elections and regional districts. At a provincial level, it will bring gongshow to victoria.


we can do this :troll:

welfare 11-09-2018 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by wreck (Post 8927730)
anyone watch the live debate last night? according to Horgan, PR is "lit".

remember this isn't a left vs right, or rich vs poor thing. PR is a terrible system, vote against.

:thumbsup:
Severe lack of transparency from Horgan and the PR system, IMO

welfare 11-09-2018 10:26 AM

That debate in itself is a perfect example of how PR will function lol.

stump 11-09-2018 11:51 AM

Voted FPTP. i love how they use Germany as an example for one of them. You need to be Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking's love child to understand their voting system.

carisear 11-09-2018 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wreck (Post 8927739)
you are misinformed. this has nothing to do with right vs left.

exactly. bill tielman, ndp's former poster boy, is a huge advocate against pr.

I voted against it for quiet a few reasons. lots of which have been covered here, and in the media already.

it is not a fairer system
it is not a better system

what it is, is a DIFFERENT system. it has pros and cons, but by no means is fptp a bad system.

welfare 11-09-2018 08:38 PM

Wilkinson: how many mla's will we have?
Horgan: if you were woke, you'd know.
BAHAHAHAJAAHA!!!
what a fag.

meme405 11-18-2018 08:04 PM

the ballot is fucked up. It leaves so many unanswered questions its not even funny.

It has options, and yet goes into no detail whatsoever on how those options would work.

The current government has totally botched this referendum, and it pisses me off. They wasted our money on an il-thought out question, which leaves more questions than answers. I agree with those who say they dont know what the fuck they are voting for, because the ballot is unclear and there is no information.

The big thing which I haven't seen discussed here is how FPTP inevitably leads to a two party system, which is a big problem here in BC especially.

Here is a fantastic video which explains the issues with FPTP:


CGP grey is brilliant.


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